Joint Survey

15 posts · started May 4, 2004

cassioo May 4, 2004, 9:59 PM
Guess what we had today. A Mock Joint Survey. So we paid someone to come tell us what we did wrong. And guess who got picked to go sit and talk to the Surveier and DON, nurse manager and nursing ed people....you're right ME. I wasn't like it wasn't me with 15 patients a couple of students and a RN pulled from another unit for the first time. So I had to go sit for 1 1/2 hours (most sitting I got to do today) and answer questions like..."what makes you qualified to take care of a post op c-section" how do you know how to do this?? what are the policies on this?? where would you find this information?? What do you do in this situation??? I did fine there were a few things that weren't fine but I didn't do it Then I just had to go back out right at change of shift and catch up with dry IV's, meds, docs etc etc etc. At our hospital they give out play money when you do extra shifts, get good patient reviews, do extra things (like this)...I better get my play money LOL you can use it in the cafe, gift shop, pharmacy etc. I'm also working 8 hours tomorrow which was a day off.
1mg.epi May 8, 2004, 4:12 PM
We use play money in the same way. We call them Baptist Bucks. Get them for many of the same reasons. Next time Joint Survey comes around and they put you with the inspection team, black mail your supervisor for more funny money. Its great to get free stuff.
Anonymous May 8, 2004, 4:39 PM
At the hospital I used to work in the CEO had his pic on the funny money . It was only good for the cafe...Isn't that fraud somehow????

WR,,, three commas for Becca

And he called it McJones bucks...OMG.
Anonymous May 8, 2004, 4:54 PM
Sure was when he made more than GW and the RN's were making 20/hr....Second highest paid CEO in Maine after the one at the Maine Miracle Center.. Opps I mean Maine Medical Center.. How could I make such a typo..


WR,,, three commas for Becca

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cassioo May 9, 2004, 10:19 AM
our "funny Money" also has the CEO's pic on it and it's even named after him Begley Bucks. I haven't gotten mine yet. I'll probably be forgotten and not get any.
Had very busy week at work including that and on Friday 18 patients (postpartum/post op GYN) with me and an LPN and the secretary was sick...did they send help??? now Labor was busy so they couldn't come out and help. I had to tell the boss a little about that situation on the phone yesterday too she was not pleased.
Anonymous May 9, 2004, 10:38 AM
Cass I am sorry to hear about this.. Why does management think we can continue to work like this.. Don't they realize how dangerous it is.. I just read in the paper this past week that a woman sued a hospital in KS because they were inadequately staffed.. And she won.. To the tune of 2.3 million if I remember correctly...


WR,,, three commas for Becca
1mg.epi May 9, 2004, 10:45 AM
Yah that 2.3 million also increased the cost of healthcare which means fewer nurses.

I owe, I owe, so back to work I go.
Anonymous May 9, 2004, 10:55 AM
I know that and I am sure no one in upper management lost out.. I believe heads should have rolled on that one.. But I doubt it... To many f***ing chiefs and not enough indians.. And no one take offense it's just a saying..


WR,,, three commas for Becca
cassioo May 9, 2004, 11:51 AM
well Friday when I was in charge we also had a patient who called patient rep and since I was in charge and the manager wasn't around I got to go with him. The lady had been a little demanding but then she also did have valid points. She was basically upset because some of the nurses weren't real nice (and some aren't) and would act like she was a bother (lots of times she was) but we still have to act like they are the only ones there (sorry person coding I can't take care of you right now because demanding patient needs her water refilled). But she said if they would have just told her her requests would be a little later instead of answering the call light and saying I'll be right there taking and hour then she called again and it was still 20 minutes...but then that's communication too where whoever answers the light doesn't get the information to who needs it. Her complaint wasn't about the day I was busting a.. but other days and nights in general. And when se left she did thank me for being one of the ones that had been so nice. My feet are swollen up nicely for all the running I did this week and hardly sitting even to pee. Now that I'm in bitch mode While it was so busy with the 18 patients with just me and the LPN who did get her lunch....she came back from lunch and answered the call light. It was someone requestion pain med. She said ingeneral well I still have 5 minutes of lunch left I'll get it then (well she's slow and would have been much later) so fine I took the medicine too. Then around 5 someone's spouse did go pick up Wendy's (I didn't get any said I'd just wait till I got off at 7) but she said "I'm going to sit here and eat this I still have 5 minutes of lunch left" AGH..... so when I was talking and bitching to the boss yesterday on the phone I just said and you know if some people would get off their butts and get in gear then we could all sit for a few minutes maybe..she said she know (she is a good boss who does bust butt too. when I got called on call Thurs night and we were still sinking she came in too for 5 hours) But part of the sinking was it was a couple of newer nurses who couldn't get the ducks in a row. (this was in labor and we had no rooms and pt in ER waiting) so I got in there and cleaned house if they weren't really in labor sent them home or to the floor, cleaned rooms etc. OK I"m done bitching now for the moment.
1mg.epi May 9, 2004, 1:05 PM
You were talking about a Mock Joint survey, Last Joint Commission Inspection (the real thing) I was charge in CCU. One of the patient in an other nurses charge fell. Well family was upset, patient did not have a clue and was not injured. The family went streight to the joint commission inspectors and told them all kinds of BS. I just wanted to tie a rope around my neck and jump out the window. I was supported by my director and Administration.
cassioo May 9, 2004, 5:14 PM
yep that was a mock joint but a few months ago it was state and I got that too. I either work too many days or the wrong ones At home health Joint was worse they would follow you all day to people's houses. It's really hard to go by all the "standards" when not everyone's house is up to standard. At least they didn't go with me then just talked at the office and went with someone else.
Anonymous May 9, 2004, 7:07 PM
He heheehehe.. I was working agency in a NH once years ago when the state came in..They decided to folllow me during a med pass.. I got the cart out and took it into a four bed ward. And then washed my hands ..Looked at the first MAR and gave eyedrops..Calling the patients name, checking name band on patient and at foot of bed, telling them what I was giving, had a tissue ready to wipe excess away. Then used foam hand cleaner and then did all there other meds. Double checking and then washed my hands again before dispensing the po meds. And then on to the next patient. I washed my hands with the foam between each patient, after I did the eyedrops and before I actually gave the meds ( after getting them all in the med cup) .. LOL.. The surveyor finally said,,,"Ok I see you know how to wash your hands" Enough already... We were in the room for almost 45 minutes for those 4 patients..LOLLL She was more stressed than I was...


WR,,, three commas for Becca
nursinghumor May 12, 2004, 10:42 AM
It does seem like you know how to "play the game" (smile). It's too bad they can't pay attention to quality of care issues in between inspections.

It's aggravating to have to put on a show knowing that in a couple of days, it will be back to the status quo.

Andrew Lopez, RN
http://www.nursinghumor.com
HemoStat May 13, 2004, 10:24 PM
Journeyman, I used to BE one of those state surveyors who was aggravated beyond tears with that hand washing drill. Seems no matter where I went, if the NH staff knew nothing else they had the cleanest hands in the state!!!

Being a FORMER state surveyor, I have stories that are worthy a thread of their own. One of these days.....