Nurse pay

26 posts · started May 24, 2004

Kendall May 24, 2004, 6:46 PM
what kind of nurse makes the most money?, how much
what kind of nurse makes the least money? how much
I have asked a question like this before, i don't know anything really about nursing, just that it is something i think i really want to do, so bare with me, i am just learning.
thanks
kendall
nursinghumor Jun 1, 2004, 2:20 AM
You can find your answers here:

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Salaries By Region, (Source: Nursing2001, March 2001)
Region Register Nurses (RNs) Licensed Practical/Vocational Nurses (LPN/LVNs)
New England $17.07 $14.65
Middle Atlantic $16.78 $12.08
East North Central $16.30 $12.60
West North Central $14.70 $10.84
South Atlantic $15.74 $11.53
East South Central $14.29 $10.11
West South Central $15.04 $10.63
Mountain $15.75 $11.76
Pacific $18.28 $14.16

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A Comparison of Nursing Salaries, By: Seana McFadden:"Some thoughts on why nurses are not paid what they are worth.nDo salaries reflect the fact that nursing is predominantly a female profession? nAre nurses adequately compensated for their years of experience? nDo institutions compensate nurses for their many years of service?"
http://www4.desales.edu/~nursing/Seana/NursingSalaries_files/frame.htm

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Allied Physicians, Inc: Nurse Salaries - Salary Surveys:"There is a shortage of nurses and techs throughout the world. We congratulate providers who maximize healthcare in their communities. Our free employment search services are available to well trained nurses and radiology professionals. Click Here for details of your Nursing salaries are often dependent upon the needs of a location and the required schedule, training, expertise, and experience of a nurse."
4590 Hwy 1 #131, Rehoboth Beach, Delaware 19971
http://www.allied-physicians.com/salary_surveys/nurse-salaries.htm

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Allnursingschools.com, Nursing Salary Statistics:"Nursing salaries vary widely by region of the country, amount of experience, amount of education, and the type of facility, so keep in mind that these statistics are only general guidance in helping you to assess options for your nursing career. At a top level, the recently released National Sample Survey of Registered Nurses for 2000, conducted by the Health Resources and Services Administration, shows that the average annual salary of full-time Registered Nurses has increased to $46,782. The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that in 1998, half of all registered nurses earned more than $40,690. The middle 50 percent earned between $34,430 and $49,070 a year. The highest 10 percent earned more than $69,300 a year, and the lowest 10 percent earned less than $29,480. Many employers offer flexible work schedules, child care, educational benefits, and bonuses.
http://www.allnursingschools.com/faqs/salaries.php

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Salaries, Nursing 2000 Inc.:"Salaries are competitive with other professions and attracting more men and women into nursing. In the central Indiana area, a new graduate starts out at approximately $35,000-$37,000 per year. Nationally, the average salary of an RN employed fulltime is $46,782. A highly experienced registered nurse, for example in a hospital setting, can earn $56,000 base salary per year. The nurse who works evenings, nights or weekends receives added compensation. Nurses choosing careers in advanced practice, administration, education and research may earn more, depending on the amount of responsibility associated with their role."
http://www.nursing2000inc.org/salaries.html

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Nursing Salaries, Nurses for a Healthier Tomorrow (NHT):"Financial compensation for nurses varies according to geographic location, type of nursing, years of experience and level of education. Starting salaries for entry level staff nurses range from $30,000 to $45,000 per year, plus additional pay for evening, night and weekend shifts. Benefit packages often include health insurance, vacation, holiday pay, college tuition reimbursement, childcare, flexible scheduling and pension plans. Clinical Nurse Specialists and nurses with advanced degrees make considerably higher salaries."
Nurses for a Healthier Tomorrow/STTI
Honor Society of Nursing, Sigma Theta Tau International
550 West North Street Indianapolis, IN 46202
bennison@stti.iupui.edu
http://www.nursesource.org/nursing_careers.html

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Nursing2000 salary survey:"If you're wondering whether you're paid as well as your colleagues, check out the results of our first annual salary survey. How does your salary compare with that of nurses in similar positions across the nation? Does higher education pay? You'll find answers to these and other questions here, in Nursing2000's first annual salary survey. We tabulated the data based on 2,784 usable responses to a questionnaire published in the October issue of Nursing99 and posted on our Web site.
http://www.tnpj.com/content/nursing/0004/salsur04.htm

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Nursing Education in Tennessee, Nursing Salaries:"Nursing salary ranges depend upon region of the country, type of education and experience, type of facility and job description. Facility size is a major factor in nursing salaries -- the larger the facilities and number and types of beds (ICU, med-surg, etc.) the higher the salary. Over the past few years, although nursing salaries have risen across the board, the largest increases have been for experienced nurses. Based on Bureau of Labor statistics, the figures listed below are the national and Tennessee average nursing salaries earned in 2000.
http://nursing-education-tn.org/c7.htm

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Case Management Salary Survey:"Case management is a broad and growing industry. The Case Management Society of America estimates that there are 80,000 case managers practicing nationwide, representing businesses from insurance companies to private employers. The CMSA and ADVANCE teamed up to get a picture of this diverse lot and give you, case managers across the continuum, a look at what your colleagues do, where they work and what they make doing it."
http://www.advanceforpac.com/ppsalarysurvey.html

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Nursing Faculty Salaries Post Continued Increases, Aacn Survey Shows:"Mostly Modest Gains, However, Come As Many Schools Work to Stem Faculty Shortages. Doctorally prepared professors at nursing schools at the nation's universities and four-year colleges are earning an average of $66,132 in the current 1998-99 academic year, up 2.7 percent above a year ago, according to the latest salary survey by the American Association of Colleges of Nursing (AACN).
American Association of Colleges of Nursing
One Dupont Circle, NW, Suite 530 Washington, DC 20036
Phone: (202) 463-6930 - Fax: (202) 785-8320
webmaster@aacn.nche.edu
http://www.aacn.nche.edu/Media/NewsReleases/fcsl99.htm

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NP Salary Summary, Nurse Practitioner Support Services:
10024 S.E. 240th St., Suite #102, Kent, WA 98031
Phone: 253.852.9042 Fax: 253.852.7725, npss@nurse.net
http://www.nurse.net/cgi-bin/start.cgi/salary/index.html

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The Climb Continues NP Salaries Increase, but at a Slower Pace: Results of the 2001 National Salary Survey of Nurse Practitioners:"Worried that nurse practitioner salaries are stagnating or dropping? National statistics show the opposite: The 2001 National Salary Survey of Nurse Practitioners, an exclusive service of ADVANCE for Nurse Practitioners, found that NP salaries are continuing to rise. According to survey results, the average annual NP salary has increased $4,781, or 8.19%, over the past 2 years (Table 1)."
http://www.advancefornp.com/npsalsurv01.html

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Movin' On Up What a Difference Two Years Makes Results of the ADVANCE 1999 National Salary Survey Of Nurse Practitioners:"Amidst sometimes rancorous debate about oversupply, the average nurse practitioner salary has increased by nearly $6,000 during the past 2 years, according to the ADVANCE 1999 National Salary Survey of Nurse Practitioners. The average full-time nurse practitioner salary increased by $5,859 since 1997, when the average full-time NP salary was $52,532. In 1999, the average NP earned an annual salary of $58,391 (Table 1). Although money is a sensitive subject for most people, it apparently is not taboo for nurse practitioners today. After ADVANCE for Nurse Practitioners published results of the first-ever national survey of nurse practitioner salaries in January 1998, our staff could not keep up with the ensuing reprint requests."
http://www.advancefornp.com/npsalsurv99.html

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Advance For Nurse Practitioners, 1997 Salary Survey: Who's Making What — and Where:"'Robert' is a nurse practitioner with two NP certifications who works in a surgery setting in San Francisco. He probably makes more money than you do. Robert's gender, specialty and region all contribute to his salary of $72,000. Why? First, Robert is a man. Men continue to earn more than their female counterparts in most work settings, and that disparity also exists in the nurse practitioner field--even though men comprise only 4% of the profession. Geography also influences Robert's salary. Working in a metropolitan area boosts an NP's earnings, and nurse practitioners in the Pacific earn higher salaries than their colleagues in other parts of the country. And lastly, Robert works in the highest-paying NP workplace setting: surgery."
http://www.advancefornp.com/npsalsurv97.html

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medicalcareersource.com, Nursing salaries are rising, but one local hospital says they are not the only factor in nurse retention:"The National Sample Survey of Registered Nurses for 2000 showed that the average annual salary of full-time RNs had increased to $46,782. The national average for LPNs was $29,440. According to the American Nurses Association, in 2001 hospital staff nurses earned $36,618, administrators earned $45,071, instructors earned $36,896, supervisors earned $38,979, clinical nurse specialists earned $41,226, nurse practitioners earned $43,636, and nurse anesthetists earned $76,053. Average national RN salaries also vary by education level. A nurse can earn an average of $46, 500 with a BSN, $43,000 with an associate degree, and $42,000 with a diploma. Data also shows that certification pays, with certified nurses earning $46,446 versus $39,573 for non-certified nurses."
http://www.medicalcareersource.com/articles/nursesalaries.html

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Nurse Connection Inc.:"NCI Nurses are the best-compensated nurses in Florida. While a new agency may offer above market rates for a short period, no other employer in the region consistently offers the attractive rates that NCI has offered over the last 15 years. We also believe that our benefits package is superior and provides our Nurses with the security of knowing that strong insurance and retirement programs are in place. Rates - NCI Nurses work in a wide variety of Specialty Critical Care areas and, thus, rates will vary by classification. Rates also vary by hospital, shift and even daily demand (especially "in season"). Overtime is, of course, paid when qualified.
Nurse Connection Inc.
5340 N. Federal Highway Suite 102 Lighthouse Point FL 33064
Phone: 1-888-942-6412 Fax: 954-933-1440
sheldon@nurseconnection.com
http://www.nurseconnection.com/compensation.htm

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New York, St. Mary's Hospital, Nursing Salaries and Shift Rates:"Base rate of $17.00 per hour (with one year's experience), with additional credit for further experience. $2.00 per hour premium (plus differential) in addition to your base rate for evening shifts. $3.00 per hour premium (plus differential) in addition to your base rate for night shifts. $1,500 hiring bonus for all shifts."
427 Guy Park Ave Amsterdam, NY 12010
Tel: 518-842-1900 Webmaster@smha.org
http://www.smha.org/nsg_salaries_rates.php

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Oklahoma, Nursing Salaries and Nursing Benefits, Professional Resources for Nurses, Inc.:"While your salary is determined by geographical region and clinical specialty - Pay rates are individualized for each hospital and will vary for each assignment. If you are serious about working with PRN , then let us meet or beat the wages from other organizations for similar job openings."
Professional Resources for Nurses, Inc.
P.O. Box 10156 Enid, Oklahoma 73702
Telephone: (580) 233-5999 Toll Free: (800) 427-8334
Fax: (580) 233-5909 FAX: (800) 332-4137
recruiting@prntravelnurse.com
http://www.prntravelnurse.com/salary_and_benefits.html

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Andrew Lopez, RN
http://www.4nursing.com
oh hd rn Jun 16, 2004, 5:15 PM
dont forget...
agency nurses make more than staff nurses...
locally (cincinnati, ohio) agency rates are as follows(pretty much ALL the local agencies):
dialysis $36 - $40/hr
medsurg $40/hr
tele/icu $45/hr
pick and choose your days/shifts
OT paid >40hrs/wk at time and a half
holidays paid at time and a half
all the local agencies have gotten rid of shift differentials for eves, nights, and weekends...

locally, staff nurses (RNs) make between $17 -$28/hr, regardless of specialty
are typically commited to every other weekend and every other holiday, which rotates (if ya work christmas this year, theoretically, you'll have it off next year)
DO recieve about 10-15% shift diff and 20-25% weekend diff
most facilities no longer pay "charge pay"
OT paid >40 hrs/wk at time and a half
holidays paid at time and a half

just something to consider...
cassioo Jun 16, 2004, 9:53 PM
regardless of specialty
are typically commited to every other weekend and every other holiday, which rotates (if ya work christmas this year, theoretically, you'll have it off next year


right until someone who should work this x-mas quits or calls in or is off on FMLA so you work it again this year. I've worked almost every Thanksgiving which is fine that way I don't have to go to the in-laws. X-mas is pretty flexabile for me my kids are my parents only grandkids and I've done every new years eve..party animal that I am.
nursinghumor Jun 19, 2004, 9:34 PM
Working agency isn't all it is cracked up to be, I've been doing it for over five years.

On the average, agency nurses make 50% or more than staff nurses working in the same position.

what can stink, is your hours usually are not guaranteed and if you're scheduled for five shifts in a given week, you can be cancelled for all five at the last minute. Usually my agency gives facilities up to two hours before the start of a shift to cancel with no penalty. Within two hours of the start of the shift, we get paid for four (of eight) hours no matter what.

If you are living paycheck to paycheck and are depending on that income, getting canceled at the last moment can put you in a bad spot.

Andrew Lopez, RN
http://www.4nursing.com
kathy-j Nov 8, 2005, 8:08 PM
Is the pay for travel nurse guaranteed. Are the hours gauranteed? If not what is really great about being a travel nurse? What is the best way to choose a travel company? Many questions that need answers as I really think I would like to travel and I have a lot of experience to offer a good company.
SilverBells Nov 10, 2005, 8:14 PM
Pay and hours for a travel nurse are gaurenteed. Usually in your contract it states something like 36 or 48 hrs gaurenteed a week. If they offer 36 and youwant more, get it written into your contract.

But to be honest, I think the high pay only sort of offsets the things that travel nursing can not offer.

For example: at my last position, I was offerred to be able to take advantage of all the classes offerred via the hospital. Except that is it a small rural hospital and it farms out all the ACLS, PALS, TNCC classes- the stuff I needed to recertify in, so I ended up paying for it all.

In addition, the pay isn't that outrageously high. But I like to travel for a varieyt of reasons- I have seen all sorts of care settings and standards, I do not get involved in department politics, I have seen all areas of the country, and have opportunities to almost anywhere.
nursinghumor Nov 12, 2005, 1:08 AM
In comparison to a lot of other jobs from flipping burgers, to accounting, fighting fires, police officers, etc. - Nurses do pretty well when comparing pay.

Make no mistake, you do work for your money, and if that's the only reason you're going into the field, then prepare to be miserable. The main reason anyone should want to go into Nursing is for the patient contact, interaction and options for career mobility after a few years of experience.

Those are the main bright spots that keep me going when everything else on the floor is going South.

Best wishes,

Andrew Lopez, RN
http://www.nursinga2z.com
smbrn Dec 3, 2005, 7:18 PM
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who works Thanksgiving to get out of visiting the in-laws! One of the many perks of nursing to my mind. For Andrew, I also did agency nursing for 6 years and absolutely loved it except for the issue of not having guaranteed hours. I did staff relief at two different hospitals and when absolutely desperate for hours I would pull some night shifts at area long term care facilities, something I really didn't like but which helped with the issue of cancelled shifts. I was lucky. Over the six years I rarely got cancelled probably mostly because I did primarily nights and preferred weekends. Day and evening weekday hours were much harder to come by. The pay as an agency nurse was superior to staff positions but no health insurance, etc. The only reason it was an option for me was because we have always had our health insurance through my husband's employer. A great source of frustration to me was always the resentment of some nurses at the various facilities at the amount of money they suspected I made and their insistence I generally take the worst assignments since I supposedly was making so much money. Part and parcel of agency work, I guess. And fortunately I have been a nurse so long I wasn't too stressed with difficult assignments especially since more often than not I knew I wouldn't be working that same unit the next day anyways. In those days my motto always was, "It's only 8 hours!".
nursinghumor Dec 19, 2005, 7:29 AM
The "only eight hours" motto is one I can take heart in :)

Long as you're willing to be flexible and travel a bit, there are a large number of facilities you can go to in my area at least (South Jersey/Philadelphia). When I'm working long term care, the shifts, workloads are more equalized. It's mainly in the hospitals, med/surg and Tele that I find myself getting the tougher assignments they dish out to agency nurses.

I've given up trying to persuade them that they money is only part of the equation, seems like that is the only aspect they care about and focus on.

Andrew Lopez, RN
http://www.4nursing.com
shellbell Sep 1, 2006, 3:41 PM
wow, it is interesting to see the pay scales. Here in Canada for the most part, we are paid
RN around $ 25.00 an hour plus shift differential and benefits.
BSN around $35.00 an hour. plus
LPN around $23.00 an hour plus
Plus here you get paid a fair bit more if you work in the north, isolation pay.
in LTC the pay is around $18.00 and hour for both.
My sister is also a nurse and she was working for Telehealth Ontario, earning around $30.00.
So I guess our pay scale is not so bad.:D
cassioo Sep 1, 2006, 6:02 PM
shellbell wrote:wow, it is interesting to see the pay scales. Here in Canada
Plus here you get paid a fair bit more if you work in the north, isolation pay.

So I guess our pay scale is not so bad.:D

brrrr they can have the isolation pay. I get calls for Alaska all the time I've told them NEVER Alaska. Maybe visit in the middle of summer but the 40's on a nice day is about my limit of comfort. I'll take 100 anytime. :) We're at a nice mid 70's this week.
kimmiejs Sep 1, 2006, 10:39 PM
I have never worked as an "agency nurse" nor am I interested in doing so. At the end of the year I am moving back to Perth Western Australia. I am looking forward to working as a RN in Australia again. It is a completely different environment. The nurses I worked with (and will be again) actually help each other out without *****ing about it. It really was a pleasant change of pace. It had to be the best nursing job I have ever had and I am so lucky to be able to go back ;)
LTC LPN 2006 Dec 7, 2006, 4:35 PM
New LPN with no experience and I started working full time 3rd shift at a nursing home in Northern IL for $20/hr. (Base pay $19/hr + $1 shift diff.)
hppygr8ful Dec 25, 2006, 10:44 PM
I think specialty nurses do tend to get paid more but there is a great deal of disparity by region. In areas where the cost of living is higher ie New York, Los Angeles.....The pay is higher - but salaries do seem to be lower in rural areas and in the mid and southwest. Someone told me in school that psych nurses got paid well but I wasn't really interested - Found my self working in a psych hospital quite by accident. I currently get $38/hr and work 8hr shifts with no mandatory overtime. Which works great when you have a small child at home. I like getting off work at the same time as my son gets out of school; plus I really like what I do as psych patients are really underserved when it comes to treatment options. So I would suggest Psych nursing - but it really helps to get some clinical experience first so you can differentiate organic vs psych dx on new patients.

Besides if you are going into nursing for the pay you might be dissapointed. I know a lot of disenfranchised nurses who thought the pay would be so much better. Plus you have to really like people and be flexible so as to deal with the human element of nursing.

Peace and Namaste

Hppygr8ful
hsieh Dec 26, 2006, 4:55 AM
assisted living pays low
school nurse pays low
agency pays the best
hi tech specialty in a hosp pays the next best
hsieh Dec 26, 2006, 4:56 AM
hppygr8ful wrote:I think specialty nurses do tend to get paid more but there is a great deal of disparity by region. In areas where the cost of living is higher ie New York, Los Angeles.....The pay is higher - but salaries do seem to be lower in rural areas and in the mid and southwest. Someone told me in school that psych nurses got paid well but I wasn't really interested - Found my self working in a psych hospital quite by accident. I currently get $38/hr and work 8hr shifts with no mandatory overtime. Which works great when you have a small child at home. I like getting off work at the same time as my son gets out of school; plus I really like what I do as psych patients are really underserved when it comes to treatment options. So I would suggest Psych nursing - but it really helps to get some clinical experience first so you can differentiate organic vs psych dx on new patients.

Besides if you are going into nursing for the pay you might be dissapointed. I know a lot of disenfranchised nurses who thought the pay would be so much better. Plus you have to really like people and be flexible so as to deal with the human element of nursing.

Peace and Namaste

Hppygr8ful

you get 38 an hour. does that come with insurance and vacation pay or not?
MiteMsispe Feb 13, 2007, 10:14 AM
In New Orleans post Katrina my salary is presently about $33+ an hour. This rate is based on $28.25 hourly + shift diffs. I also get $400 monthly for student loan reimbursement and up to $2000 yearly for tuition reimbursement for my continuing BSN studies. I was an LPN from 1990-2005 and became a RN in Dec. 2005, so I was given ½ credit for my years of being a LPN. The hourly rates for RN agency nursing is around $40 now in New Orleans. The last rate that I received as a LPN was $18.65 hourly and I worked in an LTAC. I think we should all be quite open about our pay rates so because information is power and being informed will keep exploitation at bay. :running:
pleasedocument Apr 25, 2007, 5:35 PM
Did you know you can drive a pepsi truck and deliver bottles and cans and make $38/hr...... nurses no matter what degree are not paid enough!! regardless of what specialty we are in, med-surg, ER, ICU, we are dealing with peoples lives. Of course we embarked on this journey set out to heal the sick because that's what's in our hearts, but we should be compensated for the level of care we provide to people.
onetraveler Apr 25, 2007, 8:46 PM
pleasedocument wrote:Did you know you can drive a pepsi truck and deliver bottles and cans and make $38/hr...... nurses no matter what degree are not paid enough!! regardless of what specialty we are in, med-surg, ER, ICU, we are dealing with peoples lives. Of course we embarked on this journey set out to heal the sick because that's what's in our hearts, but we should be compensated for the level of care we provide to people.


IF Pepsi has an opening....................................
ROE_Wedge Apr 26, 2007, 6:30 PM
nurses are paid a lot more than some jobs. For instance in my 4 year bachelors degree in Information Systems Technologies i was looking to start off around 28000-36000


Compare that with a LPN or RN who goes to school for a year or just two. I think its pretty good in my book plus a lot of room for advancement and increase in pay... not even mentioning travel nursing.


I think Nurses are doing pretty good in the pay department , they could do better but who couldnt?
MRS. ERNURSE Oct 22, 2007, 6:36 PM
Back 2 yrs ago, I had a patient that drove a garbage truck. He made 18.00 per hr! At the time, I was only making $23.00..at a specialty hospital (cardiac). I was working on tele puling sheaths, hanging blood, isolation patients with MRSA, diabetic patients with qhr FS's, changing out chest tubes, along with all the rest of nursing that goes with a medsurg floor...running my *(^ off :eek: and the uneducated guy in the bed was making close to what I was making...I'm glad for his family, but I was second guessing whether I'd made the right decision or not. As a 4 yr nurse, I think I did. It's not for the pay, it's for the purpose of being able to be there for someone, to be a blessing, when there is no one else. Pay does make a difference when you are writing out your bills. However, a million dollars doesn't mean a darn thing when someone is dieing right before you and you are responsible for their life. It's all in how you feel at the end of the day! At least when the day is done, I know that I worked for that money and deserve every cent. I wonder if some of the other workers in other industries can sleep on that feeling. Can the pepsi man say the same thing??
Doubt it. Nursing is not for whimps, pepsi is.

It's too bad that the health industry does not see it that way and pay us for what we are really worth. Perhaps eventually they will and perhaps they will not. We just have to remember that out blessings will be in heaven. You can hang your stethoscope on that! ;)

Sincerely,
Mrs. ERnurse