Hello. After browsing the forums here, i haven't seen this question yet so if it has been asked, I apologize. I was wondering what the attitude towards males in the nursing field are these days and what experiences, positive or negative, have any of You experienced? The admin at my school says that males are fully excepted but the anecdotal evidence I am getting says this is not the case, especially when I tell people what I am going to school for. This has me worried to the point where I am thinking of changing majors to PT, OT, or maybe even Radiation Tech. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Marc
marcs106 wrote:Hello. After browsing the forums here, i haven't seen this question yet so if it has been asked, I apologize. I was wondering what the attitude towards males in the nursing field are these days and what experiences, positive or negative, have any of You experienced? The admin at my school says that males are fully excepted but the anecdotal evidence I am getting says this is not the case, especially when I tell people what I am going to school for. This has me worried to the point where I am thinking of changing majors to PT, OT, or maybe even Radiation Tech. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Marc
I will be the first admit, it is nice having a male nurse around when there is a heavy patient that must be repositioned frequently but then females prefer a female to place foley catheters, check vaginal bleeding, etc.... so this kind of evens thing out (if you understand what I mean). Now that that is said the type of nurse and person you are is what matters.
I think men are well accepted in the nursing field. How comfortable you, as a man, are working in a still female dominated field depends I think, on your self image. As others have said, your attitude will largely dictate how well you do but that holds true in any field. As you can imagine, the healthcare arena has some peculiarities that make a persons sex important but with tact and good character, these can can usually be overcome with ease. For the record, I started out as a respiratory therapist, became a personal trainer and then a nurse. I'm thinking about going into advanced practice but I'm not sure yet. Good luck and keep in touch
By the way, Moo, because you prefer nursing doesn't mean that others wouldn't find complimentary disciplines just as satisfying.
My present perspective may not be what your looking for since I am active duty Army Nurse Corps where about 34% of the RNs are males. However, I will say my experiences as a male nurse in the Army Nurse Corps have all been positive.
The unexplainable Moo Cow wrote:You're right, Ricu. I'll need to change my recruitment strategies.
Hey Moo,
Having had only good exchanges with you along the way, I think I understood your comment to reflect your enthusiasm for nursing and not a slight against other medical professions but maybe others just coming in wouldn't have seen it that way. Have a good day, pal.
marcs106 wrote:Hello. After browsing the forums here, i haven't seen this question yet so if it has been asked, I apologize. I was wondering what the attitude towards males in the nursing field are these days and what experiences, positive or negative, have any of You experienced? The admin at my school says that males are fully excepted but the anecdotal evidence I am getting says this is not the case, especially when I tell people what I am going to school for. This has me worried to the point where I am thinking of changing majors to PT, OT, or maybe even Radiation Tech. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Marc
Hi Marc!
I, too, did the research you speak of before entering the nursing program 10 years ago. After a long period of listening to others' opinions on the matter I finally decided to enter the program and take the career plunge based on my own life pursuits and interests. For me it was all about travel. I simply wanted to be a travel nurse. It can take you around the globe! The other careers you mention will not bring you nearly the income nor opportunities as will nursing. The choices in nursing are limitless. In seven years as a nurse (I specialized by choice in ER/Trauma) I have been a staff nurse, Charge Nurse in hella busy ED's, ER Case Manager, Administrative Nursing Supervisor, and ER Nurse Manager. I only have an associates degree! Don't be held back by an ideology which suggests there should be special catergorization as a "male" nurse. Just be the best nurse. Being male will be secondary to the reputation you develop simply from being excellent at your chosen profession. I could not be more proud of my career choice! You will too!
I'm pursuing my master degree in nursing and "male in nursing" issue is a hot topic to debate about. Some of my colleagues don't agree with men in nursing. Even though we enjoy having male nurses on our unit and they help out alot on the lift and physical aspect.
I agreed with Moo Coo, it really depend on your character and what you value. it doesn't matter where you employ, it's gonna be the same issue. Dude, I can say that many of us nurse enjoys working in a healthy environment. Not based on gender. Good luck and I sure hope you stick to nursing.
I've been in nursing for only a few years now but I have had very few experiences that I would call negative which related to my male gender. When I am at work I am an extremely positive and upbeat person. I try to know everything I can about my department and be as helpful as possible. As a result I feel that I have become a valued member of my healthcare team and I seem to be the one that people come to when they have questions. I don't believe that I am seen as being either male or female. I am just another RN with the useful trait of being able to lift heavy things. This is partly because I don't see my coworkers as being male or female. I make no gender distinctions when I'm at work. In my mind gender is irrelevant to the job except when a patient has a cultural issue with it.
The point that I'm trying to make here is that gender is only a problem if you see it that way. Ignore the negativity that some people seem to thrive on and be a positive and energetic person. This kind of an attitude transcends gender differences.
Don't worry about being a male in a female dominated profession. Do your job well, treat others with respect and you will be seen as who you are, not what you are.
I'm pursuing my master degree in nursing and "male in nursing" issue is a hot topic to debate about. Some of my colleagues don't agree with men in nursing. Even though we enjoy having male nurses on our unit and they help out alot on the lift and physical aspect.
I agreed with Moo Coo, it really depend on your character and what you value. it doesn't matter where you employ, it's gonna be the same issue. Dude, I can say that many of us nurse enjoys working in a healthy environment. Not based on gender. Good luck and I sure hope you stick to nursing.
Excuse me? What is it that your colleagues don't like about men having EQUAL OPPORTUNITY in the nursing profession? BTW, we male nurses are NOT for just lifting patients. :p
Cammer wrote:I've been in nursing for only a few years now but I have had very few experiences that I would call negative which related to my male gender. When I am at work I am an extremely positive and upbeat person. I try to know everything I can about my department and be as helpful as possible. As a result I feel that I have become a valued member of my healthcare team and I seem to be the one that people come to when they have questions. I don't believe that I am seen as being either male or female. I am just another RN with the useful trait of being able to lift heavy things. This is partly because I don't see my coworkers as being male or female. I make no gender distinctions when I'm at work. In my mind gender is irrelevant to the job except when a patient has a cultural issue with it.
The point that I'm trying to make here is that gender is only a problem if you see it that way. Ignore the negativity that some people seem to thrive on and be a positive and energetic person. This kind of an attitude transcends gender differences.
Don't worry about being a male in a female dominated profession. Do your job well, treat others with respect and you will be seen as who you are, not what you are.
marcs106 wrote: I was wondering what the attitude towards males in the nursing field are these days and what experiences, positive or negative, have any of You experienced? The admin at my school says that males are fully excepted but the anecdotal evidence I am getting says this is not the case, especially when I tell people what I am going to school for. This has me worried to the point where I am thinking of changing majors to PT, OT, or maybe even Radiation Tech. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Marc
Marc,
I just started nursing last year after quitting my job in science research. I thought that gender was still an issue in nursing. However, my encounters with peers and other people are mixed though mostly positive. True, I can get some raised eyebrows once in a while when they know that I am studying nursing but I really don't care since it's a decent and well paying job plus you can have flexibility in your schedule. I think that the increasing number of males taking up nursing will bring a positive impact in the profession. If females can take up engineering and penetrate other "male-dominated" professions, why can't we go into nursing? Hang in there, I think you're doing the right thing! Good Luck.
I am a 50yo General Contractor in Denver and have decided to change horses in mid stream. I still outwork most of the guys in their 20's 30's and 40's , not out of competition but simply out of ability. However I ended up in construction out of shear undirected coincidence. Caring about and for people is more about me than building houses. I care about the people I build things for, but that only gets you run-over in the end and cuts profits by a huge margin.
I quite confidently tell the tough-ass guys I've employed and worked with over the years I am becoming a nurse and to my face they take it very well, perhaps a little puzzled but very well. My friends all react alarmingly consistently "you would make a GOOD nurse', almost as if they expected it of me. I might add most of my friends are in health care, from Coding-Specialists to Doctors.
I may have the underlying knowlege that most anyone who thinks me effeminate or a sissy wouldn't last 2 hours working along side me in construction. Quite honestly it is a mid-level aerobic charge 10 hours a day 5 days a week, so I don't have a reluctance to state my intentions.
In the end it is about whether you are tough enough to be a nurse or not, regardless of gender. Some women are tougher than some men, and you, if you want to be a NURSE have to be tougher than most men!
Personally, I don't want to be appreciated when there are heavy patients around. Men get back pain too. I want to be appreciated for being a nurse, NOT just for some male-specific tasks I can perform.
Dat Mann wrote:Personally, I don't want to be appreciated when there are heavy patients around. Men get back pain too. I want to be appreciated for being a nurse, NOT just for some male-specific tasks I can perform.
I agree. I just heard about a friend of mine who now has a rotator cuff injury that occurred during lifting someone else's patient. He is out on disability and may not be able to return to bedside nursing. It might be considered partially or mostly his fault that it ocurred, but the root of the problem is that men are still merely seen as "useful to have around" by a lot of women.
From an EMS/ retired Army point of view i dont see that "male nurse" as an issue. i see many "male nurses" everyday when i give report at the various ERs.
when i frst moved out here to FLA before all my state certifications were worked out for my paramedic i worked in the CDU as a tech with an awesum guy named mario from canada this guy worked his ass off. he's the nurse i hope to model my myself after when i get done wth all this schooling.
in the army women were the minority pretty much everywhere with the exception of nurses. lucky for me throughout my career in the military i got to work with and near women (cause i luv women) my paramedic partner currently is female we call each other work spouses cause we spend 1/3 of our time together. iwouldnt trade her for anything. shes smart and sensitive and is much better at communicating with patients after midnight than i am.
so anyways, i have suggestion for a few other forums;
short male nurses (me 1 day); "step stools in every patient room"
alien male nurses " do you think the extra thumbs r a help or a hinderance"
republican male nurses " we dont need no stinking national healthcare"
short male nurses wth a napolean complex " sure i can reach that, why do u ask?"
and finally:
female nurses that were once male nurses; "today on maury"
I have noticied a couple of things about being a male nurse. On Med-Surg units some of the older patient might question why a male is a nurse. It is very hard to get a position in an OB/L&D/Nursery unit. In the specialty units such as ICU/ED/Cath lab/Surgery there is no question. Most of my supervisors prefer males over females from a business stand point in that the males tend to call in sick less often (no monthly periods and mood swings), tend to work extra shifts, less gossiping about fellow workers, better team work together, and no pregnancy leave for 3 monthes. Just from my experience, and I know this post will upset some folks, on my shift (which is mostly male RNs in an ICU), things just run smoother and quietier even when multiple patients are not doing well.
ICUCHARGE wrote:I have noticied a couple of things about being a male nurse. On Med-Surg units some of the older patient might question why a male is a nurse. It is very hard to get a position in an OB/L&D/Nursery unit. In the specialty units such as ICU/ED/Cath lab/Surgery there is no question. Most of my supervisors prefer males over females from a business stand point in that the males tend to call in sick less often (no monthly periods and mood swings), tend to work extra shifts, less gossiping about fellow workers, better team work together, and no pregnancy leave for 3 monthes. Just from my experience, and I know this post will upset some folks, on my shift (which is mostly male RNs in an ICU), things just run smoother and quietier even when multiple patients are not doing well.
I agree with most of what you've said. I'd rather work with men. But remember the average age of RN's in this country is rising so the period issue will soon become moot.:39: And I'm sure the mood swings are directly related to the male species :houra: :houra: :houra: ... And as for working extra. My average week is 55 hours. So for one female nurse your argument doesn't hold. BTW I can't get pregnant no equipment anymore....:)
As I said I'd rather work with men too.
As an added thought, do YOU act differently when you work with all men? Could that be why things are quieter. Just curious.
maybe it's where you work. On my all female unit it does get loud as we have lots of talkers but very few that call in and many that work extra shifts as well as multiple jobs...and men not being off on maternity leave can be changing as men can take FMLA for a new baby...my husband did then quit his job and has been the stay at home dad for 8 years now.
I dont like being referred to as a male nurse or being considered "lifting assistance". i havent had too many bad experiences with females, as i am amazingly charming and handsome. lol
ChrisChirdo wrote:I dont like being referred to as a male nurse or being considered "lifting assistance". i havent had too many bad experiences with females, as i am amazingly charming and handsome. lol
Returning to the original question... I rarely run into any problems related to being a male nurse, but I do specialize in Critical Care. During my travels I do see a higher percentage of male RNs in specialty units than on MedSurg.
Occasssionally a physician may treat you better than another nurse and the comment will follow that it is related to your sex. I am not aggressive but by no means can it be said that I will shy from a biased remark (former SSG Active Duty US Army). I tend to mention that I bring years of ICU experience, CCRN/TNS status, and ACLS/PALS/BLS certifications to the table. Then I politely but firmly remind them that I am a NURSE. If that isn't enough to command a physicians respect then my experience and credentials should.
as a male, the patients always stop you thinking you are a doctor. here is a few ways i respond.
"hey doc...". i reply, "NURSE, im a nurse, dont insult me like that".
"why didnt you become a doctor instead of a nurse"
answer "i did, but when i graduated medical school i didnt feel i had the knowledge to treat patients properly so i went to nursing school"
"what made you become a nurse"
answer " i was in college and my guidance counselor asked what i wanted to major in, so i told him GIRLS, so he sent me to nursing school and whaddya know, i graduated"
quote: "Hello. After browsing the forums here, i haven't seen this question yet so if it has been asked, I apologize. I was wondering what the attitude towards males in the nursing field are these days and what experiences, positive or negative, have any of You experienced? The admin at my school says that males are fully excepted but the anecdotal evidence I am getting says this is not the case, especially when I tell people what I am going to school for. This has me worried to the point where I am thinking of changing majors to PT, OT, or maybe even Radiation Tech. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Marc"
Yes, I have nothing much to do today so i'm adding my two cents to this old thread. Marc, if your still looking in here........on your question concerning attitudes toward male nurses and +/- experiences........my first response is that there are female nurses who don't like working with males and don't believe males belong in nursing but they are in the minority. Personally I think they just don't like men for whatever reason and its not really about nursing in most cases. I worked with lesbian nurse (she was outfront with that) who made it clear she didn't like men and tried to make my day hell whenever I worked with her. After 25 years I can say that most nurses I have worked with accepted me as a nurse. If you are good at what you do, have a postive attitude and a little bit of a thick skin you will be fine. Don't take everything to heart and be defensive about everything. I do like working with other men as there is less gossiping and more teamwork.
NavyJim58 wrote:quote: "Hello. After browsing the forums here, i haven't seen this question yet so if it has been asked, I apologize. I was wondering what the attitude towards males in the nursing field are these days and what experiences, positive or negative, have any of You experienced? The admin at my school says that males are fully excepted but the anecdotal evidence I am getting says this is not the case, especially when I tell people what I am going to school for. This has me worried to the point where I am thinking of changing majors to PT, OT, or maybe even Radiation Tech. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Marc"
Yes, I have nothing much to do today so i'm adding my two cents to this old thread. Marc, if your still looking in here........on your question concerning attitudes toward male nurses and +/- experiences........my first response is that there are female nurses who don't like working with males and don't believe males belong in nursing but they are in the minority. Personally I think they just don't like men for whatever reason and its not really about nursing in most cases. I worked with lesbian nurse (she was outfront with that) who made it clear she didn't like men and tried to make my day hell whenever I worked with her. After 25 years I can say that most nurses I have worked with accepted me as a nurse. If you are good at what you do, have a postive attitude and a little bit of a thick skin you will be fine. Don't take everything to heart and be defensive about everything. I do like working with other men as there is less gossiping and more teamwork.
marcs106 wrote:Hello. After browsing the forums here, i haven't seen this question yet so if it has been asked, I apologize. I was wondering what the attitude towards males in the nursing field are these days and what experiences, positive or negative, have any of You experienced? The admin at my school says that males are fully excepted but the anecdotal evidence I am getting says this is not the case, especially when I tell people what I am going to school for. This has me worried to the point where I am thinking of changing majors to PT, OT, or maybe even Radiation Tech. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Marc
Marc, I have been an RN for 28 years. Not only have I been accepted, but I have been appreciated. If you want to be a nurse, don't change your major. In my practice I have never faced any prejudice or maltreatment. Thanks, Dan
marcs106 wrote:Hello. After browsing the forums here, i haven't seen this question yet so if it has been asked, I apologize. I was wondering what the attitude towards males in the nursing field are these days and what experiences, positive or negative, have any of You experienced? The admin at my school says that males are fully excepted but the anecdotal evidence I am getting says this is not the case, especially when I tell people what I am going to school for. This has me worried to the point where I am thinking of changing majors to PT, OT, or maybe even Radiation Tech. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Marc
If only.
We as men have to be accepting of our fate if we are going to survive, This question of yours is nothing new , and the answer is the same as it was when men first reentered the field of nursing. the truth is that SOME FEmale nurses havn't accepted the idea that it is OK for men to work in this field. they see it as a "Good Old Dames" club, where men are a burden to the system. They (the G.O.D.'s) think we cant do the job becausse we lack the feminine touch IE: the "Mothering instinct" and many other reasons (some of which are made up as they go allong) they see it as an invasion of there space. We have entered there comfort zone and they are not comfortable any more. So, as the saying goes "Misery loves company".
This is what I have learned from my mother who happens to be an open minded nurse/BSN her F(r)IENDS at work gave her nothing but strife over me getting my Nursing Degree, then congratulated her when my kid sister followed me two years later.
To make a long story short my friend, If you give up we all lose!!!!!!!!
By "All" I include all those who are against us being who we were called to be (the G.O.D.'s). If you want to be a Nurse then be the best Nurse you can be.
One of my instructors told me that I have an unfair advantage over the females in my class, and that advantage was that I had already overcome my greatest obstacle in becoming a nurse, gender bias.
For the end I only say this.
If given the chance to do it all again knowing the outcome/heartaches I would face allong the way I would still become a nurse.:luck:
orionseal wrote:If only.
We as men have to be accepting of our fate if we are going to survive, This question of yours is nothing new , and the answer is the same as it was when men first reentered the field of nursing. the truth is that SOME FEmale nurses havn't accepted the idea that it is OK for men to work in this field. they see it as a "Good Old Dames" club, where men are a burden to the system. They (the G.O.D.'s) think we cant do the job becausse we lack the feminine touch IE: the "Mothering instinct" and many other reasons (some of which are made up as they go allong) they see it as an invasion of there space. We have entered there comfort zone and they are not comfortable any more. So, as the saying goes "Misery loves company".
This is what I have learned from my mother who happens to be an open minded nurse/BSN her F(r)IENDS at work gave her nothing but strife over me getting my Nursing Degree, then congratulated her when my kid sister followed me two years later.
To make a long story short my friend, If you give up we all lose!!!!!!!!
By "All" I include all those who are against us being who we were called to be (the G.O.D.'s). If you want to be a Nurse then be the best Nurse you can be.
One of my instructors told me that I have an unfair advantage over the females in my class, and that advantage was that I had already overcome my greatest obstacle in becoming a nurse, gender bias.
For the end I only say this.
If given the chance to do it all again knowing the outcome/heartaches I would face allong the way I would still become a nurse.:luck:
Hey dude,
Hopefully it's gotten better for you. It sounds like you've been surrounded by some pretty headstrong lady nurses. While I've seen some strong willed females in the fleld, they have been in the minority. By and large, I find my coworkers to be congenial and the workplace to be focused in a relatively "gender neutral" fashion. There are good places out there for male nurses. If you aren't in one, start looking because you deserve to be appreciated for the qualities that make you a good nurse. Being male adds a special quality that your patients and coworkers will appreciate when they get to know you.
Hi Marc...I just posted an introduction to the forum...not because I am new but returnig after a long absence.
Yes, you will find I suppose "acceptance" in the nursing field. as a nurse of the male gender. Nursin is a profession that as you will read in my intro, has many options but you are the one who takes them.
when I worked many ER's and a very rare ICU shift, I did get the exclamation :"Wow..here comes "muscles" ". Politely, I always made it clear I was there as another nurse and not as a weight lifter. Helping as a team member is one thing...but letting others push you into helping, was not in my shift report.
Hang in there....if you feel you want to be a nurse...follow the dream.
Its funny but I have been doing this (nursing) so long now and have so completely excepted being a male nurse (took a long time) that I forget sometimes that others outside the profession find males in nursing curious. I was at a party recently that was not a healthcare function and was conversing with a group of people I did not know........folks in academia and business.......when someone asked me what I did for a living I simply said i'm a registered nurse. you could have heard a pin drop. I got "that look" from a couple of people.....you know the one....."is he gay?".........a couple of others suddenly seemed to be embarrassed......finally someone simply changed the subject and started talking about something else.....I was "floored"......and for a minute it brought back all the old feelings I had when I was a new nurse......is nursing a job like any other? My answer to that is NO. If it was we wouldn't have a nursing shortage. Not everyone can do this job which makes it special and as a registered nurse you are special. As a male registered nurse you are even more elite. Elite of the fleet as we say in the Navy. Have a great day.
Same thing happened to me this past weekend Jim. You can tell by the look on their faces lol.... and all im saying is im GOING to nursing school.. i can only imagine when i actually say im a nurse haha .
I dont care what others think, im there to do a task to the best of my ability
ROE_Wedge, I know what you mean when you say "im there to do a task to the best of my ability" but there is more to it:
Since nursing school I have "pushed" the fact that registered nurses are "professionals". We must think like professionals and act like professionals. We must join and participate in professionals societies both local and national. As long as registered nurses see themselves as task oriented, blue collar hourly workers (including letting unions lead lead them) we will never achieve the status of lawyers, accountants, physicians and engineers. I am a college prepared licensed professional with graduate credentials as well. Military RN's are "officers" in the military and have promoted themselves to where they can even be in a commanding position over physicians. I am responsible for my own career and goals. Career not job. Thanks for listening.
I definitely agree with you Jim and thank you for the heads up. I am prior Air Force myself and i really respect the title of being a professional and i try to embrace that in every walk of my life. I agree with you that nurses should be seen as professionals and not just task doers. A lot of people in society have the wrong image or perception as to what a nurse really is and i do believe its important for nurses to display this level of professionalism.
ROE_Wedge wrote:I definitely agree with you Jim and thank you for the heads up. I am prior Air Force myself and i really respect the title of being a professional and i try to embrace that in every walk of my life. I agree with you that nurses should be seen as professionals and not just task doers. A lot of people in society have the wrong image or perception as to what a nurse really is and i do believe its important for nurses to display this level of professionalism.
thanks and your right about the wrong image and perception from some of the public. a big thumbs up to you.
Hopefully it's gotten better for you. It sounds like you've been surrounded by some pretty headstrong lady nurses. While I've seen some strong willed females in the fleld, they have been in the minority. By and large, I find my coworkers to be congenial and the workplace to be focused in a relatively "gender neutral" fashion. There are good places out there for male nurses. If you aren't in one, start looking because you deserve to be appreciated for the qualities that make you a good nurse. Being male adds a special quality that your patients and coworkers will appreciate when they get to know you.
Welcome to the brotherhood.
R
I've been away for a time. Sorry for not replying to your kind words of encouragement.
I have been taking your advice even before reading it, the environment in my home town towards men who choose a carrear in nursing is; as you rightly guessed hostile, so, I have been searching far and wide for a place that is more accepting of men in our field. The responce so far is knocking my socks off. The only major snag is the time it takes to get endorsements to practice in other states. One would come to think breaking into Fort Knox easy in comparison and far less time consuming.
FINGERPRINTS : CHECK
LICENCE VARIFICATION : CHECK
ENDORSEMENT LIST : CHECK
YADDA: YADDA: YADDA : CHECK
ETC,ETC---------- : CHECK
Each of these is an additional CHECK that has to be written for ::said dollar amount::
one word of advice to any and all students "When taking the NCLEX get endorsed in any and all states you think you may want to work in when you take the test"
Back to my first train of thought now.
A change of location seems to be what every other guy that graduated from the same program as I did has been forced to do, while most all of the girls seem to have found work in the local area (those that wanted to anyway).
I was foolhardy enough to believe that "I" would be different.
Yea, what a joke.?
Anyhow, my family has been supper in it's saport of me and the struggles I encountered in my local job search. they will undoubtedly follow me to what ever end.
So to make a long story short stay out of Northeastern Michigan if you are a male in the field of nursing, but the rest of the world seems to love us.
Hey orionseal, with american automakers going down the tubes maybe a lot of those blue collar wrench turners need to change their attitudes and look into healthcare now? :39: Just a thought. :luck:
Hey orionseal, with american automakers going down the tubes maybe a lot of those blue collar wrench turners need to change their attitudes and look into healthcare now? :39: Just a thought. :luck:
orionseal wrote:I've been away for a time. Sorry for not replying to your kind words of encouragement.
I have been taking your advice even before reading it, the environment in my home town towards men who choose a carrear in nursing is; as you rightly guessed hostile, so, I have been searching far and wide for a place that is more accepting of men in our field. The responce so far is knocking my socks off. The only major snag is the time it takes to get endorsements to practice in other states. One would come to think breaking into Fort Knox easy in comparison and far less time consuming.
FINGERPRINTS : CHECK
LICENCE VARIFICATION : CHECK
ENDORSEMENT LIST : CHECK
YADDA: YADDA: YADDA : CHECK
ETC,ETC---------- : CHECK
Each of these is an additional CHECK that has to be written for ::said dollar amount::
one word of advice to any and all students "When taking the NCLEX get endorsed in any and all states you think you may want to work in when you take the test"
Back to my first train of thought now.
A change of location seems to be what every other guy that graduated from the same program as I did has been forced to do, while most all of the girls seem to have found work in the local area (those that wanted to anyway).
I was foolhardy enough to believe that "I" would be different.
Yea, what a joke.?
Anyhow, my family has been supper in it's saport of me and the struggles I encountered in my local job search. they will undoubtedly follow me to what ever end.
So to make a long story short stay out of Northeastern Michigan if you are a male in the field of nursing, but the rest of the world seems to love us.
Hey Orion,
Thanks for the reply. I've come to realize that there are regions where sexrole stereotypes will prevail over enlightened thinking no matter what. It's kind of sad that the attitude is bad enough where you are that you have to leave your home just to escape the judgement. Good luck with that, man. On the matter of all of the hoop jumping you're doing, welcome to the legalities of medicine and licensure. Don't let any those licenses lapse until you're sure you about which ones you won't ever use. It's much easier to keep them current than to reactivate them- talk about hoop jumping. I did that myself until my state of residence entered into a reciprocity agreement with the state in which I work. Keep your chin up and stay in touch.
NavyJim58 wrote:Hey orionseal, with american automakers going down the tubes maybe a lot of those blue collar wrench turners need to change their attitudes and look into healthcare now? :39: Just a thought. :luck:
thanks to the unions
Maby; maby not, the big question is with the steriotypical autoworkers rate of pay versus the amount of work they actualy do they might be abble to apply one or possably two bandaids to a shift; that is if they got some overtime for it.
We have a local plant here that the union just went on strike and basicly shut the place down. Sabitage and chasing away vendors and suppliers just is not the way to keep a job. The owners were forced to go bankrupt. :hung:
My first question is why strike when you have a job for $20.00 an hour (and most of those guys never graduated from highschool)?:2confused:
My second question is would you want these guys working on you in the E.R. especialy if they were busy and haddn't been allowed a coffee break?:eek:
Thanks for the reply. I've come to realize that there are regions where sexrole stereotypes will prevail over enlightened thinking no matter what. It's kind of sad that the attitude is bad enough where you are that you have to leave your home just to escape the judgement. Good luck with that, man. On the matter of all of the hoop jumping you're doing, welcome to the legalities of medicine and licensure. Don't let any those licenses lapse until you're sure you about which ones you won't ever use. It's much easier to keep them current than to reactivate them- talk about hoop jumping. I did that myself until my state of residence entered into a reciprocity agreement with the state in which I work. Keep your chin up and stay in touch.
R
Thanks for the words of encouragement as well as the advice it seems to be the prudent trend (maintaining multiple state endorsments). I'll keep in touch. :meditate:
orionseal wrote:Maby; maby not, the big question is with the steriotypical autoworkers rate of pay versus the amount of work they actualy do they might be abble to apply one or possably two bandaids to a shift; that is if they got some overtime for it.
We have a local plant here that the union just went on strike and basicly shut the place down. Sabitage and chasing away vendors and suppliers just is not the way to keep a job. The owners were forced to go bankrupt. :hung:
My first question is why strike when you have a job for $20.00 an hour (and most of those guys never graduated from highschool)?:2confused:
My second question is would you want these guys working on you in the E.R. especialy if they were busy and haddn't been allowed a coffee break?:eek:
You got that right.........I know a guy in California who gets $28 an hour to drive cars out of the factory to a parking lot. 100% health benefits and guranteed lunch and breaks. I'd say why did I go to college but this guys days are numbered. take care.
