Reply With QuoteI find it hard to believe that if this woman had been to the ER 3 times in one day they didn't do a CT scan & find her perforated bowel. I'm wondering if this woman has a history of "crying wolf" since she seems to be so well known to the ER staff.
I thought this was a scary article. Before I post it, I wanted to give a little bit of personal experience. I am soon to be a 3rd semester ADN student and work as a PCA for the invaluable experience I am gaining. I have witnessed many instances since I started school and my work at the hospital where the nurses just don't seem to have time to care like I feel they should. When an RN has 12 patients to chart on and pass meds to, they pretty much get a chance for an initial assessment and thats it. While I acknowledge that they are pressed for time, I also see that they could utilize some of the basics learned in school to provide better care for their patients and allow for more time to get their work done. 2 examples that come to mind off the top of my head are one patient who had been on the light all evening long for pain. I went into the room to answer a light knowing that she had just gotten pain meds and could not get any more for a while. I explained to her why she could not have any more meds right now and that maybe we could try some repositioning for her shoulder surgery. I spent maybe 5 minutes with her and when I got back to the nurses station, her RN told me, " I bet she calls again in 5 minutes." The lady did not get on her light again all night. I doubt the nurse noticed but I did. I have also found that a few minutes of teaching goes a long way. I had a patient in nursing 1 who had CHF and was on fluid restrictions. He was very upset because he could not have very much fluids and was also concerned about the swelling he had. I spent a while with him defining CHF and the effects. He was much more compliant with the doctors orders now that he understood why. I have had a few nurses give me the "You'll learn" speech about how after I have been in the field a while I will stop caring so much and thinking I can change the world. My response is that there are too many careers for a RN for me to stay in patient care if I don't care anymore. Read on to see a horrible example for the aforementioned complacency..............
In the emergency room at Martin Luther King Jr.-Harbor Hospital, Edith Isabel Rodriguez was seen as a complainer.
"Thanks a lot, officers," an emergency room nurse told Los Angeles County police who brought in Rodriguez early May 9 after finding her in front of the Willowbrook hospital yelling for help. "This is her third time here."
The 43-year-old mother of three had been released from the emergency room hours earlier, her third visit in three days for abdominal pain. She'd been given prescription medication and a doctor's appointment.
Turning to Rodriguez, the nurse said, "You have already been seen, and there is nothing we can do," according to a report by the county office of public safety, which provides security at the hospital.
Parked in the emergency room lobby in a wheelchair after police left, she fell to the floor. She lay on the linoleum, writhing in pain, for 45 minutes, as staffers worked at their desks and numerous patients looked on.
Aside from one patient who briefly checked on her condition, no one helped her. A janitor cleaned the floor around her as if she were a piece of furniture. A closed-circuit camera captured everyone's apparent indifference.
Arriving to find Rodriguez on the floor, her boyfriend unsuccessfully tried to enlist help from the medical staff and county police — even a 911 dispatcher, who balked at sending rescuers to a hospital.
Alerted to the "disturbance" in the lobby, police stepped in — by running Rodriguez's record. They found an outstanding warrant and prepared to take her to jail. She died before she could be put into a squad car.
How Rodriguez came to die at a public hospital, without help from the many people around her, is now the subject of much public hand-wringing. The county chief administrative office has launched an investigation, as has the Sheriff's Department homicide division and state and federal health regulators.
The triage nurse involved has resigned, and the emergency room supervisor has been reassigned. Additional disciplinary actions could come this week.
The incident has brought renewed attention to King-Harbor, a long-troubled hospital formerly known as King/Drew.
The Times reconstructed the last 90 minutes of Rodriguez's life based on accounts by three people who have seen the confidential videotape, a detailed police report, interviews with relatives and an account of the boyfriend's 911 call.
"I am completely dumbfounded," said county Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky, who has seen the video recording.
"It's an indictment of everybody," he said. "If this woman was in pain, which she appears to be, if she was writhing in pain, which she appears to be, why did nobody bother … to take the most minimal interest in her, in her welfare? It's just shocking. It really is."
The story of Rodriguez's demise began at 12:34 a.m. when two county police officers received a radio call of a "female down" and yelling for help near the front entrance of King-Harbor, according to the police report.
When they approached Rodriguez to ask what was wrong, she responded in a "loud and belligerent voice that her stomach was hurting," the report states. She said she had 10 gallstones and that one of them had burst.
A staff member summoned by the police arrived with a wheelchair and rolled her into the emergency room. Among her belongings, one officer found her latest discharge slip from the hospital, which instructed her to "return to ER if nausea, vomit, more pain or any worse."
When the officers talked to the emergency room nurse, she "did not show any concern" for Rodriguez, the police report said. The report identifies the nurse as Linda Witland, but county officials confirmed that her name is Linda Ruttlen, who began working for the county in July 1992.
Ruttlen could not be reached for comment.
During that initial discussion with Ruttlen, Rodriguez slipped off her wheelchair onto the floor and curled into a fetal position, screaming in pain, the report said.
Ruttlen told her to "get off the floor and onto a chair," the police report said. Two officers and a different nurse helped her back to the wheelchair and brought her close to the reception counter, where a staff member asked her to remain seated.
The officers left and Rodriguez again pitched forward onto the floor, apparently unable to get up, according to people who saw the videotape and spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Because the tape does not have sound, it is not possible to determine whether Rodriguez was screaming or what she was saying, the viewers said. Because of the camera's angle, in most scenes, she is but a grainy blob, sometimes obstructed, moving around on the floor.
When Rodriguez's boyfriend, Jose Prado, returned to the hospital after an errand and saw her on the floor, he alerted nurses and then called 911.
According to Sheriff's Capt. Ray Peavy, the dispatcher said, "Look, sir, it indicates you're already in a hospital setting. We cannot send emergency equipment out there to take you to a hospital you're already at."
Prado then knocked on the door of the county police, near the emergency room, and said, "My girlfriend needs help and they don't want to help her," according to the police report. A sergeant told him to consult the medical staff, the report said. Minutes later, Prado came back to the sergeant and said, "They don't want to help her." Again, he was told to see the medical staff.
Within minutes, police began taking Rodriguez into custody. When they told Prado that there was a warrant for Rodriguez's arrest, he asked if she would get medical care wherever she was taken. They assured him that she would. He then kissed her and left, the police report said.
She was wheeled to the patrol vehicle and the door was opened so that she could get into the back. When officers asked her to get up, she did not respond. An officer tried to revive her with an ammonia inhalant, then checked for a pulse and found none. She died in the emergency room after resuscitation efforts failed.
According to preliminary coroner's findings, the cause was a perforated large bowel, which caused an infection. Experts say the condition can bring about death fairly suddenly.
Hours after her death, county Department of Health Services spokesman Michael Wilson sent a note informing county supervisors' offices about the incident but saying that that police had been called because Rodriguez's boyfriend became disruptive.
Health services Director Dr. Bruce Chernof said Friday that subsequent information showed Prado was not, in fact, disruptive. Chernof otherwise refused to comment, citing the open investigation, patient privacy and "other issues."
Peavy, who supervises the sheriff's homicide unit, said that although his investigation is not complete, "the county police did absolutely, absolutely nothing wrong as far as we're concerned."
The coroner's office may relay its final findings to the district attorney's office for consideration of criminal charges against hospital staff members, Peavy said.
"I can't speak for the coroner and I can't speak for the D.A., but that is certainly a possibility," he added.
Marcela Sanchez, Rodriguez's sister, said she has been making tamales and selling them to raise money for her sister's funeral and burial. Her family has been called by attorneys seeking to represent them, but they do not know whom to trust.
She said the latest revelations, which she learned from The Times, are very troubling.
"Wow," she said. "If she was on the floor for that long, how in the heck did nobody help her then?
"Where was their heart? Where was their humanity? … When Jose came in, everybody was just sitting, looking. Where were they?"
Sanchez said her sister was a giving person who always took an interest in people in need, unlike those who watched her suffer. "She would have taken her shoes to give to somebody with no shoes," she said. Rodriguez, a California native, performed odd jobs and lived alternately with different relatives.
David Janssen, the county's chief administrative officer, said the incident is being taken very seriously. In a rare move, his office took over control of the inquiry from the county health department and the office of public safety.
"There's no excuse — and I don't think anybody believes that there is," Janssen said.
Over the last 3 1/2 years, King-Harbor has reeled from crisis to crisis.
Based on serious patient-care lapses, it has lost its national accreditation and federal funding. Hundreds of staff members have been disciplined and services cut.
Janssen said he was concerned that the incident would divert attention from preparing the hospital for a crucial review in six weeks that is to determine whether it can regain federal funding.
If the hospital fails, it could be forced to close.
"It certainly isn't going to help," Janssen said.
At the same time, he said, the preliminary investigation suggests that the fault primarily rests with the nurse who resigned. "I think it's a tragic, tragic incident, but it's not a systemic one."
Supervisor Gloria Molina, who hadn't seen the videotape, said she wasn't sure the hospital had reformed.
"What's so discouraging and disappointing for me is that it seems that this hospital at this point in time hasn't really transformed itself — and I'm worried about it," she said.
Supervisor Mike Antonovich said he believed care had improved at the hospital overall, but added, "It's unconscionable that anyone would ignore a patient in obvious distress."
Rodriguez's son, Edmundo, 25, said he still couldn't understand why his mother died. "It's more than negligence. I can't even think of the word."
His 24-year-old sister, Christina, said, "It just makes it so much harder to grieve. It's so painful."
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I find it hard to believe that if this woman had been to the ER 3 times in one day they didn't do a CT scan & find her perforated bowel. I'm wondering if this woman has a history of "crying wolf" since she seems to be so well known to the ER staff.
[QUOTE=SinatraV;42591]I thought this was a scary article. Before I post it, I wanted to give a little bit of personal experience. I am soon to be a 3rd semester ADN student and work as a PCA for the invaluable experience I am gaining. I have witnessed many instances since I started school and my work at the hospital where the nurses just don't seem to have time to care like I feel they should. When an RN has 12 patients to chart on and pass meds to, they pretty much get a chance for an initial assessment and thats it. While I acknowledge that they are pressed for time, I also see that they could utilize some of the basics learned in school to provide better care for their patients and allow for more time to get their work done. 2 examples that come to mind off the top of my head are one patient who had been on the light all evening long for pain. I went into the room to answer a light knowing that she had just gotten pain meds and could not get any more for a while. I explained to her why she could not have any more meds right now and that maybe we could try some repositioning for her shoulder surgery. I spent maybe 5 minutes with her and when I got back to the nurses station, her RN told me, " I bet she calls again in 5 minutes." The lady did not get on her light again all night. I doubt the nurse noticed but I did. I have also found that a few minutes of teaching goes a long way. I had a patient in nursing 1 who had CHF and was on fluid restrictions. He was very upset because he could not have very much fluids and was also concerned about the swelling he had. I spent a while with him defining CHF and the effects. He was much more compliant with the doctors orders now that he understood why. I have had a few nurses give me the "You'll learn" speech about how after I have been in the field a while I will stop caring so much and thinking I can change the world. My response is that there are too many careers for a RN for me to stay in patient care if I don't care anymore. Read on to see a horrible example for the aforementioned complacency..............
Hi SinatraV,
You make very good points. No matter how jaded we get, we shouldn't become impervious to our patients' needs. Even though we are excessively busy and really sometimes don't have enough time, we should devote what time we do have in the best possible way. Your implication regarding patient education is very valid. If they know what's going on they're generally less anxious and more compliant, even if it sometimes ends up being a transient state. You really seem to have a handle on the healthcare delivery system and how to survive in it. Good luck.
R
BTW, I've seen this article and can honestly say that even after almost thirty years in the field, I was shocked- and embarassed that such a thing could happen.
hi.
I'm a registered nurse now for almost two years,and I've been an lpn for 10 years.
first you must be careful with names,remember confidenciality.
second: Ive seen nurses turn cold,sometimes for the years exposed to pain and also due to work loads.12 patients seems to be a bit too much,the more I've had have been 7 patients,and that is hard work.even when you care you must prioritize,and that those not meen that you don't care,but it is important to touch base with your patients so they are aware that you have not forgotten about them.also,and these may sound like passing the buck,sometimes you have to delegate,and there is where nurse and nursing aids and lpns have to learn to work together,I was a CENa when I first started healthcare work,and it is sometimes hard to visualize or guess what is the nurse thinking,there is where communication comes to play an important factor.
third: the nurse is the patients advocate,just the other night a physician was mad at me because I kept on calling him on a patient whose condition was worsening and needed to go to ICU until i got the order to do so.Oh well so is life.but our patients safety is paramount.
And yes you will find that school is different than every day nursing.But nursing school will give you THE BASE and THE Principles to be an effective and safe nurse.
Good luck and keep on hitting those books.
Virgil RN:luck:
Hi SinatraV......the first part of your post has to do with "rounding"......my hospital is "big" on rounding......don't wait for the patient to push the call button.....there are specific times like prior to bed and early in the morning when you should go around to all your patients and anticipate their needs.....get them out of the way and you "probably" won't have them bugging you all night.......your comments on communication is very valid.......patients aren't stupid......they want to know what's going on......when my people give patients and their families information they are less likely to become frustrated and take it out on the staff or write a bad critique of our care........good points.
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