Time to say goodby

38 posts · started Jun 5, 2005

lam Jun 5, 2005, 3:31 PM
It has been fun, but I must say good bye. As I sit here with my swollen legs and hands, no prospects for work I realize that nursing must be one of the coldest professions left on the planet. To all those self rightious SOB's you will be glad to know that you have ignored one of your own's call for help, you have helped to put a fellow nurse into the poverty lines, or should I say the gutter. I think it is sad when a nurse has to choose between begging, stealing or suicide. One last question, which would you choose? My only crime being what? I am still asking that. Maybe I am stupid. oh well
cassioo Jun 5, 2005, 9:29 PM
I'd just say sorry you feel that way but I also say you have to help yourself sometimes and others can't solve your problems for you. I already told you what I'd do but you didn't like that answer but her it is again I'd do whatever I had to to feed my family even if it was just working at McD's or a store even if nursing is what I wanted to do I'd do what I had to..answer phones, type, deliver newspapers... yes I've done them all I cut coupons there are lots out there for free items if you know where to look, turn off things that aren't needed like cable, cut out extras. I don't know why you can't get a job you don't answer anything directly just that nothing is your fault but someboyd elses and all of the co-workders are out to get you. Maybe a job counselor and if you really were put out of work how about legal aid?
lam Jun 5, 2005, 10:44 PM
I wish I was man enough to take that type of physical pain, but I am notand for what to buy a hamburg. today I went out and tried to get some exercise a woman at least 20 years older then me went around the pond 5 times I couldn't even make it half way. No but it sure would be nice to know where I should go to lay down and die, and I am sure you don't want to hear that. I am also sure that you would not be able to handle the truth. That in this wonderful country of ours that we actually throw, sick disabled people out on the streets. Laugh and them and tell them to get a job at Mc D's. HaHA HA I'll do it for you. 25 years of nursing and I am going to die on the streets, or maybe drop dead at McD's from a MI. HA HA. Legal Aide Ha Ha, there is some bazarre reason that this is going on. Either you are ice cold or clueless. May be thats my fault, if you have never felt this type of physical pain you wouldn't understand. This is what all those wonderful years of working has done. lol, and they still want me to continue the physical abuse on myself, lol I guess you would work at a job that you know would put you in a wheel chair, I don't believe you. I am sorry I am sure you don't know the whole story. I don't have cable, I don't go out. My kids are grown.
cassioo Jun 6, 2005, 9:53 PM
no I guess I don't know the whole story and guess that's not my (our) fault. You come and ask what you can do to make money you say it hurts to sit or to stand you say that people are out to get you but don't say how. You were given suggestions but none of them were good ideas. And yes I would do whatever it took. Pain is individual so no I don't know what you have but then you don't know what I have either and what mine might be but I keep going ...how about limping around on a broken foot for 6 weeks before even getting an x-ray. Or my uncle who's been on crutches since he was 3 years old and still working having a torn shoulder and just getting a motorized wheelchair this year (at 60years old)an accountant for a major city electric company. Or another uncle who was an eye doc until 2 years ago when his vehicle flipped on ice and is now an incomplete quad with no movement to his legs and gross movement to his arms in a w/c can't do his doctor thing but is still active in civic activities, or my brother who's been on workman's comp for a year after falling from a ladder (at a theater) and has a master's degree but it's in theater design and just now getting back to work or my husband who was in the AF for 20 years then got out and had some major problems that finally have mostly resolved but worked in computers then became a stay at home dad (luckily) that produced my 6 year old that instead of doing kindergarten work does 2nd and 3rd grade work because of the work daddy did with him at home. ...no I don't know anyone else's pain but I also know sometimes you have to help yourself however you can. Maybe some counseling or a job placement thing if you really want to work. Now I'm done on the subject.
lam Jun 6, 2005, 10:12 PM
I'm glad your done. I am well aware of other peoples problems, maybe I focused too much on others instead of my own. but please tell me if you know anyone of them that have done it on their own. I would like to know. because all I am running into is people that want to take advantage. I got called into work when I was still on cruthches with a fresh TKR. I have been looking for work for a year now. Since I am alone I know that being in a wheel chair would only make things worse. Are you a real nurse? If you are then does what you learned only apply to pts. in a hospital? I may have bladder cancer
Old_School Jun 7, 2005, 6:43 AM
You're not really leaving the forums . . . are you? This whole thread was to get a rise out of cass wasn't it? Happy now?
lam Jun 7, 2005, 7:26 AM
oh please I need a coach to help me work at Mc D's. please is there anyone out there that can help. I'll give ya a hamburg or fries and if ya is real nice maybe both. have to buy your own drink though.

O_S I am leaving out of necessity.
Old_School Jun 7, 2005, 7:50 AM
You're not leaving. You have to have the last word. I'll bet you $5 that you cannot resist posting and letting this tread die here and now.
lam Jun 7, 2005, 8:12 AM
Your right I have a little time yet then I am going to be in the gutter so my computer will be turned off or destroyed. I guess I shouldn't say that. Not every one can handle the truth. I don't have $5. No you have to have the last word or you wouldn't have responded to the last one LOL
Right?
cassioo Jun 7, 2005, 8:33 AM
doesn't get too much of a rise from me just a head shaking and eye rolling....and from another posting it's where abouts proper grammer gets you further when putting in applications even at McD's. I'd have taken that computer bill and said so long to it and used the public library computer myself when things are so tough. :0
lam Jun 7, 2005, 9:10 AM
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cassioo said:
doesn't get too much of a rise from me just a head shaking and eye rolling....and from another posting it's where abouts proper grammer gets you further when putting in applications even at McD's. I'd have taken that computer bill and said so long to it and used the public library computer myself when things are so tough. :0

[/ QUOTE ]I agree with the grammar part. and the gas to get there and only an hour every day yep I agree. I wasn't the one trying to get a rise out of you. some people just don't have compassion or understanding and prefer to judge
cassioo Jun 7, 2005, 9:55 AM
you asked for opinions on what you could do anybody that has said anything you've turned that into people don't understand and judge if you don't want to know don't want opinions don't ask for them or you might get them. Ok here I feel so sorry I know for the little info you've given that you have been done wrong I don't know why nobody will hire you when you said you can't walk or stand or sit that's no reason that they shouldn't hire you at the top pay scale. Did that make it better? No probably not.
lam Jun 7, 2005, 12:05 PM
LOL It is hard to give a complicated story in a few short paragraphs. But, I have been a nurse for 25 years, the problem is not that I can't do nursing. Theproblem is that I can't do other jobs. I know that is difficult to understand. and I always did as much as every other nurse, so why is it a problem now? In fact I probably did more than my share to over compensate for my legs. I am sure that is also hard to understand. My problems are walking out side and standing in one place for long periods. I think this is just a way to pay me less for more work.
Old_School Jun 7, 2005, 1:26 PM
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lam said on the General Nursing Forum
I was in a spot where management and others were going after me like fire. what was my crime could not handle the bull crap. They weren't really interested in patient care they were more interested in seeing me hang. These same people are the ones that are making my life a living hell. what is the worst thing that I have done forgot to chart VS on a patient that slid 4 inches to the mat that was put there so that he wouldn't get hurt.

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It's pretty evident what happened. If she acted at work the way she does here, it's no wonder they got rid of her. Everyone is to blame but her. Bla-bla-bla. It gets old, real quick.

O_S
lam Jun 7, 2005, 1:58 PM
LOL no every one is not to blame just a few. Do you not think that they actually do this stuff? I know I didn't until it happened to me. I went through 25 years of nursing with the rose colored glasses on. I have to admit that you have given me something I have never had before. Are you like that with your patients? LOL I guess an inteligent conversation isn't possible with some people or they revert to Bla-Bla-Bla LOL. Thanks I haven't laughed this much in awhile. Now if any one can come up with real solutions besides Bla-Bla-Bla. let me know. That has got to be the biggest cop out I have ever seen.
cassioo Jun 7, 2005, 3:50 PM
sorry then can't give you any help because I stand for a big majority of my 12 hour shift as do the majority of the nurses I work with so couldn't understand how to do nursing without lots of standing. I did stand less when I did home health but that involved driving 200 miles for work a day then sitting in peoples homes or standing in their home doing dressing changes and medications but in the hospital it's run run run for me so nope I don't understand the ones I work with that don't run are the ones that don't do and we all get paid the same I just consider it work ethic.
cassioo Jun 7, 2005, 7:53 PM
then don't stand just walk the halls when you have nothing to do just just stand. It would be different if the run run run was the problem and you couldn't stand. Is there a rule that you have to stand in one place like in the military at attention or something? Guess I've never been lucky enough to stand for extended periods except at a door to chart something but that doesn't take all that long. When I worked nights on peds the LPN and I would walk up and down the hall for exercise and to stay awake if we had a slow night.....really you don't make alot of sense you want to work but sitting, standing and walking are bad not many jobs I can think of then.
lam Jun 7, 2005, 8:18 PM
You are just bound and determine to turn this around so that you can attack. WALKING in doors on a flat surface is not a problem, OUTSIDE on unlevel ground it causes severe leg and back pain due to my legs with limited motion. STANDING in one spot as in a job other than nursing is a problem. I know that nursing doesn't usually have a lot of standing in one spot, unless you are working in a LTC facility that has an unusual long med pass, then there might be a problem, usually I can compensate for that by moving around. But, every once in awhile I get an idiot that thinks it is not ok to do that. Have I clarified this for you. I have 30 degree flexion in my right leg and about 90 in my left leg. If you recall from anatomy you should be able to see why I have problems with sitting for long periods. It has to do with good posture that I am not able to do when I am sitting. Walkin down a grade causes a problem because I have a TKR and limited strenght in that leg. I was told that they can give me more mobility in my rt leg but that I would lose more strenght in it. I think I have said enough and that I am very capable of deciding what I am able to do. After 29 years I know what my body can and can't tolerate. Oh, by the way I also can't run, but I have passed out people running during an emergency. Must be the adrenaline. LOL
cassioo Jun 7, 2005, 9:10 PM
ok you win I am crazy but didn't know there were places where you nurse outside on uneven ground unless it's in the field in the military or mission work. And how long is a long med pass that would require standing in one place for a LONG TIME. I'd think (but sometimes I don't think too well) you'd stand at the med cart and get the med ready for that patient then WALK to give the med then walk back to the cart. How long does it take to put meds together especially if there are familiar patients with familiar meds. Yes I remember a little A&P also it was around before Ralph's and Albertson's. I think I remember a little about knees also working ortho/neuro. I have no sympathy, empathy, apathy or sense. I don't know why nobody will give you a job they should and allow you to do whatever you are able to do whenever you are able to do such things without regard to any other staffing needs or for that matter your own comfort and safety. The family that won't help you are dogs and should be chained in a pen as should the agency that is stealing your SS# and liscense#. The SS office should be shut down and while we're at it put all of the stupid social workers and police persons away too. I will get myself to church and say a few hail Mary's for the wretch I am.
lam Jun 7, 2005, 9:50 PM
could we drop this already. Oh my GOD!!!!! The only reason I had mentioned any of this was because it does interfere with different types of jobs, not just nursing. If you recall I asked if anyone knew how I could make some money until I found a job. Then we went to Mc D's etc. My fault, why I feel I need to explain myself so much is beyond me. Yhe only reason I am even on this site is because I am very depressed and need to talk/post. and I don't care if you call me pathetic either. I am getting desperate. and yes there are med passes that can take up to 3 hours and you are pretty much standing in one spot for a long time. and I have never been working as anurse where I didn't do just as much as other nurses if not more. Face it, I did along time ago, there are people who have a very narrow image of people that are not physically perfect. I deal with this nonsence all the time. But if you happen to know for a fact where an employee or the staff are not like let me know. Thank you. enough said but I have learned a lot from this forum. Just like when some one felt the need to tell me I limped I had no idea. LOL Biggotry is alive and flourishing.
grapejam88 Jun 8, 2005, 12:30 AM
Iam,
First..this forum is generally a very compassionate forum.
Second..this compassion cannot penetrate your walls.
You came to this forum a while back complaining about your situation where you worked, made it clear that you were being persecuted, picked-on, and that you were made to feel worthless in your workplace. The information you gave was sparse and biased to the point that you just wanted to tell what you thought would get the sympathy vote and when that didn't happen instantly, and when people were interested in knowing more in order to hopefully give you educated information...YOU ATTACK! You become very personal and while you are quick to point out the flaws of others, insinutating that those who respond to you, with very few exception, are persecuting you, insincere, and cold. You might as well be pointing a finger back at yourself. Perhaps that is a primary reason you do NOT get the sympathy you desire and why you can't move forward in life. You don't say anywhere that I have read that you engaged at any point in a job rehabilitation situation or ever endeavored to be retrained for another field. You immediately dismiss everything anyone proposes to you as if we are a bunch of idiots. I agree that the thought of working at McD's is unappealing to most, but if that is all that will put food in your mouth or a roof over your head, then you are being wrongfully narrowminded about your options, if you have the capability to work in such a place. If you truly are disabled, then you should be able to get appropriate documentation from your physicians and obtain some form of compensation that way and in the meantime, I would urge you three things: First, seek a job retraining program to identify something else you might be good at that you have physical capability to do. Second, get some counselling for all the suicidal talk you do here, you are obviously crying out for help and finally...Please leave as you threatened to do. We definitely don't need someone threatening us constantly and belittling the greater group with offensive replies to our suggestions. Please, make a plan and go with it. Thank you.
lam Jun 8, 2005, 5:30 AM
first off there was no suicide talk. secondly I was very sincere when I asked if any one knew of a way that i could make money until I found a job. for some reason every rime I tried to explain that you attacked me. This was a friendly gesture on my part to explain. if you didn't want the information you didn't have to respond to the thread. I did not threaten any one. and I was under the impression that this was an open forum.
grapejam88 Jun 8, 2005, 6:00 AM

Quotes directly from Iam's posts:

“To all those self rightious SOB's” …(no hate here?)

“I think it is sad when a nurse has to choose between begging, stealing or suicide.” (Thinking of death)

“No but it sure would be nice to know where I should go to lay down and die.” (wishing for death?)

“I may have bladder cancer .” (Something you just throw out there for us, like a bone. Is this really true? If so, my sympathies, truly. There really are treatments as my family has been through this. Or…is this just more talk of death?)

“If you recall I asked if anyone knew how I could make some money until I found a job. Then we went to Mc D's etc.” (So..I don’t understand. You ask, we give an opinion or idea, you trash that idea and then tell us we are a bunch of idiots?)
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PLEASE…read your own posts before saying you don’t have a mental health issue and get yourself some help. The problems you have to discuss don’t belong in this forum and we probably can’t help you because you won’t let us suggest anything or “converse” with you in an open way without direct attack. You have shown repeatedly how much of a team player you really AREN’T. No surprise you aren’t working as far as I am concerned if you carry that attitude into your interviews. Let others talk WITH you back and forth and show them the same respect you seem to demand of us and then maybe you can find comfort in a forum such as this.
grapejam88 Jun 8, 2005, 6:02 AM
Quoted from Iam's posts:

“To all those self rightious SOB's” …(no hate here?)

“I think it is sad when a nurse has to choose between begging, stealing or suicide.” (Thinking of death)

“No but it sure would be nice to know where I should go to lay down and die.” (wishing for death?)

“I may have bladder cancer .” (Something you just throw out there for us, like a bone. Is this really true? If so, my sympathies, truly. There really are treatments as my family has been through this. Or…is this just more talk of death?)

“If you recall I asked if anyone knew how I could make some money until I found a job. Then we went to Mc D's etc.” (So..I don’t understand. You ask, we give an opinion or idea, you trash that idea and then tell us we are a bunch of idiots?)
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PLEASE…read your own posts before saying you don’t have a mental health issue and get yourself some help. The problems you have to discuss don’t belong in this forum and we probably can’t help you because you won’t let us suggest anything or “converse” with you in an open way without direct attack. You have shown repeatedly how much of a team player you really AREN’T. No surprise you aren’t working as far as I am concerned if you carry that attitude into your interviews. Let others talk WITH you back and forth and show them the same respect you seem to demand of us and then maybe you can find comfort in a forum such as this.
lam Jun 8, 2005, 6:52 AM
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grapejam88 said:

Quotes directly from Iam's posts:

“To all those self rightious SOB's” …(no hate here?)

“I think it is sad when a nurse has to choose between begging, stealing or suicide.” (Thinking of death)

“No but it sure would be nice to know where I should go to lay down and die.” (wishing for death?)

“I may have bladder cancer .” (Something you just throw out there for us, like a bone. Is this really true? If so, my sympathies, truly. There really are treatments as my family has been through this. Or…is this just more talk of death?)

“If you recall I asked if anyone knew how I could make some money until I found a job. Then we went to Mc D's etc.” (So..I don’t understand. You ask, we give an opinion or idea, you trash that idea and then tell us we are a bunch of idiots?)
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PLEASE…read your own posts before saying you don’t have a mental health issue and get yourself some help. The problems you have to discuss don’t belong in this forum and we probably can’t help you because you won’t let us suggest anything or “converse” with you in an open way without direct attack. You have shown repeatedly how much of a team player you really AREN’T. No surprise you aren’t working as far as I am concerned if you carry that attitude into your interviews. Let others talk WITH you back and forth and show them the same respect you seem to demand of us and then maybe you can find comfort in a forum such as this.

[/ QUOTE ]severe stress over an extended period of time can cause some one to appesar as a mental case especially if that person has no support system. as far as the dying talk goes that is just that talk refering to what else is there when you have checked out all options and there aren't any what happens people evetually die from no resources. I have gotten the same responce from people on the phone when I call to see what is out there and when I explain that I already checked what they say they get defensive and come back with "you don't want to take any of our advise" I don't know if this is a lack of communication or if people are just trying to get out of helping or if they really don't know. I am taking it that you don't have the answers and that is no reflection on you. But at the same time I don't have the answers either and that is no reflection on me either and it certainly does not mean that I am mentally ill. It means I am in a difficult situation and was looking for any one that may know something I don't. As far as the bladder cancer goes it is a possibility exrays showed spots on 3 seperate occassions but this was not talked to me about it and the only reason that I saw the exrays was a teck gave me them with the circles around the spots. so some one did see them and questioned the spots but it was ignored or hidden from me. This could be the reason for the back pain,since i did not hurt myself.
MedicRN Jun 8, 2005, 8:57 AM
Iam,

Having read this thread 4 times to make sure I wasn't missing anything, I've come to the conclusion you are either as delusional as Grape describes (probably more so) or a 15 year old spoiling for a fight. Either way, you need some serious help.

Those who have responded to your posts have done nothing but offer you the advice you appeared to seek, but you quickly throw back in their faces. I have seen nothing but me, me, oh poor, pitiful me in your replys/tangents.

To everyone else, let Iam have the last word and stop the thread. Who will be the bigger person? It takes 2 to argue.....

MedicRN
tigress_8207 Mar 11, 2006, 8:32 PM
Why are the both of you arguing?I understand u feel as though nobody cares what you have been/going through but they do otherwise they wouldn't have bothered offering you any advice.They may come across as a little harsh but they only want you to try to help yourself and not depend on others to do everything for you.If you are too stuck in your ways to to listen or even try then you really dont need help after all so then i'd say TO **** WITH YOU! God helps those that help themselves! Your choice.