Students protest final exam

11 posts · started Dec 17, 2008

cougarnurse Dec 17, 2008, 2:51 AM
What a kick! Nursing students protest RCC exam | lohud.com | The Journal News

A pinning ceremony will be held today, marking the beginning of new careers for students graduating from the nursing program at Rockland Community College.

But it's unclear even to many of this year's students exactly how many will receive their class pins or even graduate.

Numerous students in the associate degree program failed the final exam last week in a required class. The test counts as 50 percent of their grade.

"Half the class failed by one or two points," said student Marisa Ruiz, who was leading an effort to have the college re-evaluate the exam.

Ruiz and other students maintain that several questions on the test in pediatric nursing were ambiguous or could have had more than one correct answer.

"It was a real zinger," she said. "The test was very unfair."

She and more than 30 other students who failed the test met with RCC President Cliff Wood late Friday to protest the exam.

"We're not asking for a curve or anything like that," said Ruiz, who got a 74 on the test, one point shy of a passing grade. "We just want them to throw out the bad questions."

The students had another meeting late yesterday with nursing faculty members. Ruiz said 35 students who failed the test attended. There are 54 students in the class.

RCC spokeswoman Zipora Reitman said yesterday that after reviewing the exam, nursing faculty decided to eliminate several of the questions that raised objections.

"A few questions were eliminated that might be ambiguous or subject to different interpretation," Reitman said.

The nursing faculty was rescoring the tests last night, but students might not know until today if they passed or not.

"I'm sure it's very unnerving for the students," Reitman said. "But we have to do this very carefully."

She said the faculty and administrators at the college were working hard to make the process fair.

Ruiz said she was relieved to hear the college is eliminating three questions on the test. Students who still fail will have an opportunity to take it again.

"It's a fair solution," she said. "All we were asking was for the college to be fair. Now they are being very reasonable."

Many of the students taking the class are adults who returned to school to get a nursing degree, one of the few fields where job demand remains strong despite the recession.

The shortage of registered nurses nationwide could reach as high as 500,000 by 2025, according to figures from the American Association of Colleges of Nursing. The demand for new nurses is expected to grow by 3 percent annually, the group said.

It's a similar situation in the Lower Hudson Valley, where hospitals and other health-care providers are still scrambling to fill nursing jobs.

As a result, many local nursing schools, including RCC, have seen enrollment surge as students flock to a career where they know they can get jobs despite the poor economy.

Ruiz, 35, who works as a pediatric occupational therapy assistant, said she, like many of her classmates, balanced jobs and other responsibilities with their education in the hopes of becoming nurses.

"We worked so hard," she said. "It's not fair that we could lose it all over one point on a bad test."

Anyone else have this happen at their school?
OldSquidNewNurse Dec 17, 2008, 3:36 AM
cougarnurse wrote:What a kick! Nursing students protest RCC exam | lohud.com | The Journal News

A pinning ceremony will be held today, marking the beginning of new careers for students graduating from the nursing program at Rockland Community College.

"We're not asking for a curve or anything like that," said Ruiz, who got a 74 on the test, one point shy of a passing grade. "We just want them to throw out the bad questions."

Anyone else have this happen at their school?

Try needing an 80% to pass a course like my program.

I will say that I do not agree with having a test counting for 50% of a grade is a bit much unless it is an NCLEX prep class.
Robert F Dec 17, 2008, 3:30 PM
AmandaWIRN wrote:For my BSN program, we weren't even allowed to graduate unless we passed an exam that is similar to NCLEX

Yep, that is exactly how mine was. I am not sure what they do at the Bachelors level around here though, as I was already an RN and just transitioned.
cranialnerves May 14, 2009, 8:46 PM
The infamous "Choose all that apply" gets me on a regular basis. There is usually one pathetically borderline choice I will include/exclude that trips up the whole question.
cali510 May 14, 2009, 10:14 PM
I think the students were courageous to bring up their complaint. Since some of the questions were removed, sounds as if they were justified. There has to be something wrong when the majority of those who were passing before the exam, fail that particular exam.
OldSquidNewNurse May 19, 2009, 4:47 PM
cranialnerves wrote:The infamous "Choose all that apply" gets me on a regular basis. There is usually one pathetically borderline choice I will include/exclude that trips up the whole question.

I hate one there "maybe more than one correct answer. Select any you think are true."
swann829 Dec 18, 2010, 11:45 PM
I am so happy to see that these students stood up for what they believe is right. I am also a student at RCC, and I see the frustrations and tears all the time from students who are in this nursing program. I hope that by the time I am enrolled in their program that all the gliches have been fixed.
cougarnurse Dec 19, 2010, 3:17 AM
swann829 wrote:I am so happy to see that these students stood up for what they believe is right. I am also a student at RCC, and I see the frustrations and tears all the time from students who are in this nursing program. I hope that by the time Iam enrolled in their program that all the gliches have been fixed.

Welcome to the site, Swann! I realize how 'old' the post is, but I am happier to know that we now have a student from the school here on the site.

Perhaps you can keep us posted on how things are going? :vulture: