Hi everyone. This is my first post here. My girlfriend has decided to go back to school to be an RN. Her background is she has an AS degree in environmental technology. She was laid off from an engineering firm in January and has not been able to even find a waitressing job. We live in Miami.
We have kinda figured out the school part. I was surprised to learn that the RN program was an associates program. I was curious. When I see ads about RN jobs paying $ 30-40 an hour, is that for any RN or are those more for RN's with bachelor's degrees? Also, I see a lot of home health ads. She is not really interested in that type of work. She wants to work in a hospital. Are jobs there?
I guess if I had to boil it down to one question. If she gets her RN associates, what are her realistic prospects for type of job and salary? Can you do well from there? Or is a BS degree the ticket to success and $$$?
I know, that wasn't one question. Sorry.
Thanks everyone. Have a nice day.:cool-nurse:
As a regular staff nurse, she will make the same $ whether she has a BS or Associate's. But without her BSN, she will not be able to move into any type of management or leadership positions. Nurses with an Associate's can make up to $40/hour as a regular staff nurse, but not as a new grad. Specialties like ER, OR, ICU tend to make more than med/surg nurses, and the more experience you have, the more you will make.
In general, Florida is one of the lowest paying states for nurses, so I would not expect her to make more than $25/hour as a new grad in Florida. If she wants to make over $30 as a new grad, she might want to look at relocating (California & the Northeast pay well).
Amanda, thank you for the info. I see you are from Wisconsin. My girlfriend is from Racine. I can assure you that neither of us thinks relocating to the NE or CA is worth $5 an hour. LOL I just wanted to get an idea what to expect. $ 25 is not bad. She was making $ 17.50 as an environmental tech. Not the hospital janitor thingy. Groundwater sampling, etc.
For the specialties you mentioned, how do you get into those? Is that more school, or just get in ground floor and they train you where they need you?
Thanks again for all your help.:banana:
Some hospitals will train new grads for specialty floors, some want you to have med/surg experience. I've worked in South FL before, and the staffing ratios tend to be horrible, so it would be in her best interest to get experience before jumping into ER or ICU first. If she really wants to work in a specialty right after graduation, she should find a hospital that has a REALLY good new grad specialty program.
FYI- I know you said you're in Miami, but if she's looking at ER's, stay away from JFK in Atlantis. I've never worked there, but they are ALWAYS hiring, and I've heard it's a horrible place to work....
AmandaWIRN wrote:Some hospitals will train new grads for specialty floors, some want you to have med/surg experience. I've worked in South FL before, and the staffing ratios tend to be horrible, so it would be in her best interest to get experience before jumping into ER or ICU first. If she really wants to work in a specialty right after graduation, she should find a hospital that has a REALLY good new grad specialty program.
FYI- I know you said you're in Miami, but if she's looking at ER's, stay away from JFK in Atlantis. I've never worked there, but they are ALWAYS hiring, and I've heard it's a horrible place to work....
Thanks again. What do you mean by staffing ratios are horrible? No worry about JFK. We live in the south part of Miami-Dade county. Baptist Health owns just about every hospital within 20 miles of our house, so that's likely where she would end up.
I think ER is where she would least likely want to work. That would be my 1st choice. I used to be a paramedic.
Thanks.
Baptist Health is a good system. I was a travel nurse at Doctors Hospital in Coral Gables and loved it..
In the nursing field, nurses do not get laid off...so that is good.
Once a nurse graduates, then, they can be trained for a specialty like ICU, ER,OR,Labor delivery ETC.. and some hospitals take the new grad right into that field if that is something they really want. Otherwise,the RN can start on Medical Surgical floor to get experience and move on or stay there. Staffing ratios means, there is a standard of care of how many patients a nurse can safely take care of, FOr example: Medical Surgical nurse ratio should be 5or 6 patients to 1 nurse. Well some hospitals will give the RN 7,8,9,10 patients which is difficult and UNSAFE.
Starting pay in FLorida is $19 to about $23--so I've heard from nurses I've met on assignment.
Anyway, if she really feels like becoming an RN- then start applying... Keep us posted.. K
Kdog wrote:Baptist Health is a good system. I was a travel nurse at Doctors Hospital in Coral Gables and loved it..
In the nursing field, nurses do not get laid off...so that is good.
Once a nurse graduates, then, they can be trained for a specialty like ICU, ER,OR,Labor delivery ETC.. and some hospitals take the new grad right into that field if that is something they really want. Otherwise,the RN can start on Medical Surgical floor to get experience and move on or stay there. Staffing ratios means, there is a standard of care of how many patients a nurse can safely take care of, FOr example: Medical Surgical nurse ratio should be 5or 6 patients to 1 nurse. Well some hospitals will give the RN 7,8,9,10 patients which is difficult and UNSAFE.
Starting pay in FLorida is $19 to about $23--so I've heard from nurses I've met on assignment.
Anyway, if she really feels like becoming an RN- then start applying... Keep us posted.. K
Kdog & Amanda have given some great info!
However, I would like to mention that in year's past [1980's?] nursing layoffs were not unheard of but doubt that cycle will roll around again for a long time.
Thanks everyone. Sarah went for advisement at school Friday. Adviser said most hirings now want experience or a bachelors degree. I haven't seen that in the ads I have looked at. What do you all think?
Thanks
First, have Sarah check hospital web sites for career opportunities to see if they are hiring new grads. Also, she can call the nurse recruiters of the hospitals she would like to work and ask about that.
2nd- last year when the recession hit, hospitals got hit too, so they did not want to spend time and money orienting new grads, but that is changing now as we are pulling out of the Recession.
3rd- there is still a big nursing shortage and it's getting shorter.
4th.Sarah can get an AAS in Nursing then a job and work on Bachelors.
I know certain areas like NYC, Boston, etc. were not hiring new grads. Also keep in mind that Sarah does have EMS experience.
So don't give up yet.:yeahthat:
K
Kdog wrote:First, have Sarah check hospital web sites for career opportunities to see if they are hiring new grads. Also, she can call the nurse recruiters of the hospitals she would like to work and ask about that.
2nd- last year when the recession hit, hospitals got hit too, so they did not want to spend time and money orienting new grads, but that is changing now as we are pulling out of the Recession.
3rd- there is still a big nursing shortage and it's getting shorter.
4th.Sarah can get an AAS in Nursing then a job and work on Bachelors.
I know certain areas like NYC, Boston, etc. were not hiring new grads. Also keep in mind that Sarah does have EMS experience.
So don't give up yet.:yeahthat:
K
Thanks Kdog. We are working on it. BTW, you misread my post. It is me that has the EMS experience not Sarah.:cool-nurse:
Ok Bigger AL, I did misread the EMS was you..oops
Anyway, Florida is hiring new grads. I've seen it on hospital web sites.....But have Sarah keep looking into it..
.Don't give up..
Update!
My girlfriend graduated in May 2014 and passed her NCLEX in July. The job market for new nurses is horrendous! She applied to hospitals all over the state, out of state and even one out of the country. As she got desperate she applied to nursing homes, hospices, etc. As of January she got ONE interview. Her classmates for the most part had the same problem. Noone wants to hire inexperienced nurses. She had a 3.87 GPA. BLS, ACLS, PALS and EKG. Even did some ride alongs with fire rescue. We had numerous friends who had "contacts" in hospitals. Some quite high up. Didn't do any good. It was frustrating.
The schools make you believe there is this huge shortage and that you will have a job as soon as you graduate. BS
The good news is that a hospital in Port Charlotte called her for an interview and hired her to a cardiac unit in February. We had to move of course. But we weren't gonna pass the opportunity. The pay is not as good as Miami, but she loves the hospital, her coworkers and her job. The cost of living is a lot lower over here as well.
So all you newbies, hang in there. It's gonna be tough at first, and VERY discouraging. But just keep trying, it'll come eventually.:p
Al, not sure where you and said girlfriend are located, but I have read that the State of IL will be dealing with a shortage....and soon. Maybe you both can take a look at the IL state BON?
cougarnurse wrote:Al, not sure where you and said girlfriend are located, but I have read that the State of IL will be dealing with a shortage....and soon. Maybe you both can take a look at the IL state BON?
Thanks. As I said, she finally got a job. We live in Florida. And there is no way we would ever move to IL. It took her 7 months to get a job though.
Too bad nurses have to be prepared to move. There is so much difference in pay and job availability depending on the state and city you're in. I've been looking around to see where I could move. As a guide, I used this
site to give me an idea of pay rates so I can make a smart decision about where to move.
It's almost laughable. Before she even got a years experience, some of the very hospitals that wouldn't call her back in the beginning are asking her to come work for them.
