In or out of Nursing?

33 posts · started Dec 16, 2003

Belle Dec 16, 2003, 2:09 AM
Hi folks,
This is my first post.I've been out of nursing since I developed Chronic Fatigue Syn. w/ multiple sx then for "some unknown reason" I got depressed.Ha Ha.Now I'm being monitored by the IPN which is mainly for substance abusers.I get the feeling they do not know what to do w/ me.I do everything they say,everybody clears me and they say you're doing great;we'll get back to you.I've been going through this a long time.Just as I'm about to chuck it and go for a new career they give me something sort of positive to string me along.This is maddening.Anybody w/ similar som<font face="Geneva">Text</font>ething? <font face="Verdana">Text</font><font color="blue">Text</font>
totnwayne Apr 23, 2004, 6:35 PM
I despise what nursing is. I fell for the ideal that I could possibly help someone in whatever small way and make a living at it. True I can make good money at this but at a terrible cost. It is heartbreaking and backbreaking and in my case spirit breaking. I hate a thing I once loved so much. I would rather work at a minimum wage, unchallinging piece of crap nothing job than be a nurse, and I was a good nurse for 14 years.I loved my Patients but I have grown to hate the whole healthcare profession due to the crap I had to put up with. My message is this "God bless all you nurses who are satisfied and happy with your jobs-may you preservere" but to all of you thinking of going in to this
"RUN"
Anonymous Apr 23, 2004, 7:30 PM
I have a suggestion .. Get out for awhile. And I bet if you loved it once you will miss it.. No harm in trying.


WR,,, three commas for Becca

The name's changed but I will always be WindingRoad


A friend is someone who knows the song in your heart and sings it back to you when you have forgotten how it goes.
1mg.epi Apr 24, 2004, 11:36 AM
I agree with wanderinRN. Get out before every thing you loved about nursing is lost. You must have had a bad experience. Get out for some time. There are good things in nursing and maybe you will start to miss them. I have known a few people that got out for 5 or so years then came back
Mistorri Nov 5, 2004, 2:11 AM
I am just kind of agravated right now. I like nursing..but I don't. I have been in for nearly 10 years. It is tough at times, and great at times. Right now I am looking for a job. My family wanted to move back home from Texas. So here we are back in Biloxi,MS. I got an opportunity to apply for a Government nursing job. I failed the physical due to Diabetic Neuropathy in my feet. The Neurologist had put me on Methadone for pain control. Otherwise, I suffer. It allowed me to work without feeling "High","drugged",or unable to perform my duties. I have worked with this and have done a good job. No complaints,no mistakes. Well, to make long story short, the doctor who failed me, never saw me.He only looked at paperwork. So this cost me a great job. I am so upset. I am gonna keep praying that I will get a decent job. I still think it was discrimination related to my illness. I have had 2 back surgeries, these were done before ever getting my RN. People told me I could not be a nurse. I think you can do what you can do. It really upsets me that a doctor who has never laid eyes on you can veto your job before giving you a chance.
jan99901 Nov 18, 2004, 5:13 PM
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totnwayne said:
I despise what nursing is. I fell for the ideal that I could possibly help someone in whatever small way and make a living at it. [snip-snip] I loved my Patients but I have grown to hate the whole healthcare profession due to the crap I had to put up with.

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yes...and i only graduated in 2000. i saw right away that administration does not back up the nurses; that they think that every patient who doesn't get what he wants when he wants it is going to sue; and for all their <i>talk</i> about needing nurses willing to cross-train or float, they sabatage (sp.?) those who want that. my mom died last year & left me a little money. i love nursing. i hate how nurses are treated and viewed by the PTBs. (sometimes i think it has to do with how we view ourselves: a patient told me, "i don't know who anyone is--you all look alike." food for thought.)
jillofalltrades Jan 17, 2005, 8:18 AM
Have you ever heard of the disability laws. If they don't hire you because of a disablity ...and if you can do the job with reasonable accomidations...that is discrimination. Talk to an attorney..
sunshine58 Feb 3, 2005, 6:59 PM
I have only been a nurse since 1999 and have been working in nursing homes the whole time and I have become really disgusted with the way I'm treated. A lot of the people I work with treat me like I'm stupid and I am not. I am a good nurse and know what I am doing. I am going to start a new job at a hospital nearby but I am really nervous about it. I do not really want to do nursing anymore but I feel I should give the hospital a try because it may be different. If it is not, I may just have to find another profession. Any thoughts?
Monica Lee Feb 6, 2005, 5:52 PM
I have been a nurse since 1997. I have worked in hospitals mainly ER/MS. I have done agency work (going hospital to hospital) for about 7 years. Now I am a nurse auditor. I got tired of the politics and administators not backing up the nurses. I miss it sometimes but I have had my nose broken once as well as been beaten up by patients not because I am a bad nurse but because of being short staffed and not having help and sufficient security where it is needed. Does anyone know of any other outside auditing companies that is hiring auditors for Texas?
sunshine58 Feb 6, 2005, 9:24 PM
What does a nurse auditor do? I bet it's a lot better than regular nursing. I am in Massachusetts, so I don't know anything about Texas. I hope you find what you're looking for. I just worked my last night in the nursing home and tomorrow I go for orientation at a hospital nearby. I'm very skeptical. I think that it will probably be the same old thing and they won't really care about me or listen to me. I'm seriously thinking about going into something totally different where I won't be under so much pressure and have less liability.
surferRN Feb 14, 2005, 10:31 PM
I have been battling getting out of nursing for a long time. I've hated nursing ever since I got out into the real world where administration only cares about the numbers (of course they don't teach that in clinical) Now I am trying to become an engineer. I feel that even the patients are getting ingrateful and sue-happy. Not to mention all the drug-seekers that call you every name in the book. I'm sick of nursing and I pity the nursing students I see coming in every morning.
cassioo Feb 15, 2005, 6:52 AM
if you are that sick of it then it may be time to move on. Even with the bitching I like nursing. There are things I Don't like about it but it's still better then other things I've done. I also try and teach the students various things they'll run into not just how to write a care plan.
MelissaAnne213 Feb 15, 2005, 7:04 PM
<font color="purple">Wait a minute! I am reading all of your replies to the original post and now I don't know how I feel anymore. I am graduating from nursing school this May and hope to begin working as an RN by July (yeah right with waiting on the NCLEX). Anyway, I love caring for patients in clinical but I do see the negativity from the hospital staff but, most of the time, it is THE OTHER NURSES! Nurses can be so negative and degrading to each other, it scares me to think that we are all in the same profession to help others. Please, let me know are the other nurses relationships what you are talking about?</font>
cassioo Feb 16, 2005, 10:35 AM
I really do like my job there are things I don't like about it but the good outweighs the bad. I have good friends at work who are also good friends outside of work. What I don't like:
The nurse who should retire (like her not her attitude) every day she gripes all day long about the patients just wanting pain medication,,she knows they are on drugs, they all have medical cards just want that welfare check for more kids, over and over and over it gets old. She is 67 but a hard worker just bitches all day...looks like Maxine from the cartoons.
One who is as wide as she is tall but starts everyday with how she's doing so much work, when is lunch, didn't get lunch ever in her life, directs others from the nurses station to go do this go do that, I didn't want to take that patient, will sit in that chair and ask to be handed everything instead of reaching over a foot to get it. She would give you anything she had though she's very generous just doesn't work well.
Couple come in late everyday. Report starts they should be there on time so I can go home I'm there in the morning on time so they can go home it's just rude to come in late everyday...not just once in a while because of a train, sick kid etc it's every day 5 minutes.
The unit I work is busy L&D we might not be sitting at the desk at shift change if we're in delivery, OR, recovery etc. Most of the oncoming staff comes to find out what's going on what do they need to do but there are also that couple that sit at the nurses station waiting for you to come give them report.
You know it doesn't matter if you are in nursing, a factory, a bank or McDonalds everyplace there will be the bitchers and moaners, the slowpokes that never can get finished, ones that can't get along with anybody. You just have to decide what's right for you.
I like my boss, the work, the co-workers for the majority and the things I do in my job.
sunshine58 Feb 16, 2005, 2:34 PM
No, the relationship with the other nurses is pretty good but like with all professions, there are some nurses that treat you like an idiot. I guess it makes them feel better about themselves. Right now, I have nursing burnout and I am stuck. I started at a job in a hospital and everyone thinks that it is such a great job. Maybe it is, but not for me. I just have to hang on for a few months so I can save some money and go to school to learn another profession. I think I'll go drive a truck so that I can make the same amount of money and not have so much responsibility. Good luck to you if you are graduating nursing school. I hope your job is very fulfulling to you. It's just not for me. I am just bouncing these things off of other people to get an idea as to what other people think and to help me get through the next few months.
Jellybean Jun 27, 2005, 8:45 AM
I'm in..I have been a nurse for 35 years...A lot has changed since I began, I do find patients more acutely ill,
also patients and families are much more demanding.Like I said I'm in!
laurita Jun 27, 2005, 6:04 PM
i'm still in--i had written awhile back about how difficult i found finding a new job here in the states after experiencing burnout in a specialty and leaving for over a year to do volunteer nursing in peru'. i've been in a position to try a few things--sales in medical devices, community health and oncology--now i'm in icu with a preceptor. so much has changed! i haven't been in icu in years! some things haven't changed like various personalities one might encounter, or having to prioritize and organize one's time, and going home feeling like you should have done more for the patients. but, there are more machines, not to mention they are more complex, the computer system for taking off orders not the most user friendly, patients are sicker, so many disciplines are involved, there are more protocols, more documentation and of course all the new stuff regarding confidentiality. it seems there are more resources available for the nurse but not enough time to actually utilize them! maybe i feel this way because i haven't worked in a hospital for years? or is it because i worked where there was so very little, and while you never could give them all the advances medicine had to over, at the same time, you gave of yourself...so i say yes i'm in! i don't want to go back to school--i'm 50! so, i'll just do the best i can with what i have--trouble is there is so much--i just want to go home in the morning knowing i did the best i could for the patient.
nursinghumor Jul 1, 2005, 7:46 AM
I've been a nurse and an entrepreneur for seven years. Regardless of what I make on the side, don't think I'll ever give up bedside nursing.

Went into it for the patient contact which I love. The other nonsense we deal with every day is just that, nonsense. I think if nurses spent a little less time bitching about their working conditions and co-workers, we'd see some real improvements.

It's a damn shame nurses have such a hard time sticking together.

Andrew Lopez, RN
http://www.nursinga2z.com
nurse4eva Apr 10, 2006, 1:17 PM
I am an R.N. and have been one since 1989.I have had only 3 jobs during my career that I felt satisfied in. In the past 3 years I have bounced in and out of jobs repeatedly because of the stress involved.Now I feel I have reached bottom and am torn over where to turn now.I am not a young nurse and this profession is all I know.I am a skilled and qualified nurse that has never been questioned but my personality has changed for the worse.I have had nursing assistants clap their hands in my face when I have requested something be done...I have had nursing assistants abuse patients and have had no recourse ...I have had colleauges backbite and backstab...worked too many hours with too little staff and been reprimanded for petty details and going through the channels of adminstration was futile.I feel demeaned...dehumanized..and now depressed.I loved nursing when I began my career,loved the challenge and felt I was contributing something positive...I was successful for many years in my field.I feel I have hit a wall and cannot find a direction in which to turn.Has anyone been where I am now in their career and how did they get through it or did they? Any suggestion would be aprreciated...I am out of the profession now for the last few months as I find I cannot be positive and professional any longer when confronting these stressors...
briansgirl Dec 26, 2006, 7:17 AM
I sympathize! I tend to hate nursing now more than I like anything about it. I have been in nursing in some capacity for more than 10 years. I can only say think outside the box. There are jobs out there that are WAY less stress that you can do utilizing your RN.
I couldnt stand it and a few years ago took a job with an insurance company as a telephonic medical case manager. You work 9-5, get to wear normal clothes for a change and the money isnt THAT bad! Its worth a slight pay cut to save your sanity!
SoldierNurse Dec 27, 2006, 11:56 PM
I have been in the healthcare field since 1995 and have been an RN since 1998. I decided to give the USAR Nurse Corps a try back in 2003. I liked what I saw and wanted more. This past March '06 I transferred to active duty Regular Army Nurse Corps. It is one of the best career decisions I've ever made. The professionalism associated with the Army Medical Department & Army Nurse Corps is outstanding. I enjoy the opportunity to work along side other AMEDD RN's & LVN's both military and GS Army Civilian nurses. Plus, it is an honor to be able to take care of Veterans, Active Duty [and their dependents], and military retirees that need critical care attention.

The AMEDD acts as a heathcare TEAM with the patient being the #1 priority. IMHO, it takes a certain individual to be a good nurse. I say be a team player and be proud of your career. Find the positives around you [and within yourself]. If, you don't see such, then move on to a different medical facility, or a different career.

... my 2 cents :p
OhbowhntrRN Dec 28, 2006, 8:41 PM
MagRedC5 wrote: The professionalism associated with the Army Medical Department & Army Nurse Corps is outstanding. I enjoy the opportunity to work along side other AMEDD RN's & LVN's both military and GS Army Civilian nurses. Plus, it is an honor to be able to take care of Veterans, Active Duty [and their dependents], and military retirees that need critical care attention.
The AMEDD acts as a heathcare TEAM with the patient being the #1 priority. IMHO, it takes a certain individual to be a good nurse. I say be a team player and be proud of your career. Find the positives around you [and within yourself]. If, you don't see such, then move on to a different medical facility, or a different career.


Cary,
This is absolutely correct!!! While I served on active duty, nurses were part of the team, not just the "ball boys and water girls" that many of the doc's in the civilian sector try to demote them to. I certainly enjoyed that type of job where the doc's respected the nurses and their opinions. As a civilian, I have dealt with many doctors who have absolutely no respect for nurses and their opinions, and they are missing what may often times be THE most important part of the picture. A nurse can make a doctor look good or look bad, and we are the direct representative of whatever facility we work in, therefore, we should be treated with more respect. I generally command respect in my facility as a 6' 240# man who looks like a NFL linebacker, I don't very often get disrespected in person. Unfortunately, my wife as a 5'3" 145# female cannont command that same physical presence, and she has frequently been treated with disrespect. The one thing us men DO bring to nursing is a more powerful, and equalizing appearance in many cases. Unfrortunately, nursing isn't football or a construction job site, and my physical appearance doesn't really make me any more competent to perform my job duties as a nurse as my wife, it only commands more respect out of a "fear factor," so to speak.
mamcgo Dec 29, 2006, 9:27 AM
Not a Nurse so I can't answer the in or out part. Sometimes wish my wife would just get out though.

But thats not why I am repling. over the last 10 years or so I have had some major surguries. Ths last being an Aortic valve replacment and the one thing I have to say is:

God Bless All Nurses


If it wern't for the nurses in the icu unit I was in some of those D___ Doctors would have tried out every D____ Contraption they had on me just to see how they worked never mind whether I needed them or not. The Nurses knew better and at times gave me a sign behind the youngsters back letting me know not to agree to the treatment. Kosher I don't know but I bless them one and all for saving me a lot of discomfort.
sleeplessrn2003 Feb 4, 2007, 9:46 AM
You've been in nursing for a whole year now. How are you? Have you found a niche or are you struggling like so many other nurses? I'm a travel nurse. I couldn't be happier. You can't be afraid to walk away from a job that isn't fulfilling ou. I tried Med/surg, of course right out of college. Didn't like it. Went to oncology. It was hard work, but fulfilling, but still not the fit I knew I'd eventually find. Then, off to mom/baby and level II nursery: love, love, loved it! Then decided to challenge myself and leave the hospital to start my own "Mom's Helper" job and work for new moms and their babies. Great work and fantastic pay, but eventually, needed more of a challenge. Now, I'm a travel nurse. I work home hospice; it's my calling. I finally found it. I've been a nurse for just over 10 years. I'm 39 and very fortunate to have found a good place for me. In time it could change, but the beauty of nursing is that there are SO many avenues you can go with it. We don't have to burn out. If we stay in one place and it isn't filling us with passion and fulfillment, it's time to get out! Fast!
I do hope all is going well. Email anytime.
Jessica
sleeplessrn2003@yahoo.com
:luck:
SoldierNurse Feb 4, 2007, 5:02 PM
mamcgo wrote:Not a Nurse so I can't answer the in or out part. Sometimes wish my wife would just get out though.

But thats not why I am repling. over the last 10 years or so I have had some major surguries. Ths last being an Aortic valve replacment and the one thing I have to say is:

God Bless All Nurses


If it wern't for the nurses in the icu unit I was in some of those D___ Doctors would have tried out every D____ Contraption they had on me just to see how they worked never mind whether I needed them or not. The Nurses knew better and at times gave me a sign behind the youngsters back letting me know not to agree to the treatment. Kosher I don't know but I bless them one and all for saving me a lot of discomfort.
Thank you for the kind words! BTW, is your wife a member here, too?

BTW2, glad your doing well after your AVR.
:thumbsup:
SoldierNurse Feb 4, 2007, 5:05 PM
sleeplessrn2003 wrote:You've been in nursing for a whole year now. How are you? Have you found a niche or are you struggling like so many other nurses? I'm a travel nurse. I couldn't be happier. You can't be afraid to walk away from a job that isn't fulfilling ou. I tried Med/surg, of course right out of college. Didn't like it. Went to oncology. It was hard work, but fulfilling, but still not the fit I knew I'd eventually find. Then, off to mom/baby and level II nursery: love, love, loved it! Then decided to challenge myself and leave the hospital to start my own "Mom's Helper" job and work for new moms and their babies. Great work and fantastic pay, but eventually, needed more of a challenge. Now, I'm a travel nurse. I work home hospice; it's my calling. I finally found it. I've been a nurse for just over 10 years. I'm 39 and very fortunate to have found a good place for me. In time it could change, but the beauty of nursing is that there are SO many avenues you can go with it. We don't have to burn out. If we stay in one place and it isn't filling us with passion and fulfillment, it's time to get out! Fast!
I do hope all is going well. Email anytime.
Jessica
sleeplessrn2003@yahoo.com
:luck:
Jessica, I enjoyed your post! I've always believed if an individual truly loves nursing the opportunities are endless to prevent terminal burnout.
mpicray Mar 13, 2007, 11:14 PM
Crabby old nurses
Disrespectful physicians
Unsupportive administrators

A POX ON ALL THEIR HOUSES!!!

Actually, I've always thought slap therapy or ice water enemas till clear might straighten up an attitude or two. You mess up your biorhythms, miss time with your family, and get your blood pressure up trying to meet everyone's needs and still be done with your charting by the end of your shift so you don't get nagged about overtime and who really appreciates or cares about what you do.

I have to tell you, describing nursing as a love/hate relationship could 't be closer to the truth. After 30+ years of saving lives, doing good deeds and emptying bedpans I still have to describe it as one of the most provoking and at the same time rewarding professions out there. At the end of the day, I didn't twist x widgets onto x gizmos. I eased some pain, reassured a fear, gave needed medication, tucked someone under a warm blanket for a bit of sleep and, generally, served as the best advocate for health most patients will ever meet. Is it easy? Nope! But, at the end of your career, you'll be glad you stuck it out.

That said, burnout is always lurking in the Halls of Healing. I had a job at one time that I hated, Unsafe patient ratios and terrible stress had me crying every night before I went to work and every morning when I got off work, ashamed of the care I'd given because there just wasn't enough of me to go around. My dear aunt, who is also a nurse, listened patiently to my description of the nightmare this job had become and said, "Sounds to me like you need a new job." She was right. I found a new job and was much happier with my career after that. Ironically, when I left, they replaced me with not one or two but three RN's. I actually helped improve patient care by leaving!

If you're not happy with what you're doing, you need to do yourself and your patients a favor and find something else to do. Nursing is blessed with the numerous open doors attached to it. Find one and go through it. But please don't abandon the profession. It needs every dedicated soul it can get right now.

'Nuff said,

mpicray
shanemcmillian Mar 23, 2007, 9:57 PM
Hello I have a question I got n indecent exposure charge in 99 and have a few hot checks on my record will the board turn me away when I complete nursing school
mpicray Mar 26, 2007, 2:45 AM
Dear shanemcmillian,

Good Heavens!

Please tell me you're checking on this BEFORE investing money on a nursing education!

As for whether the things you mentioned will block your entry into nursing, I can only answer with "It depends." What state do you live in and were these considered felonies or misdemeanors.

The easiest thing to do, really, is call the State Board of Nursing in your state (or e-mail them) and ASK! Every state is crying for nurses so, believe me, they're going to give you an honest answer to any and all questions on this subject.

Good Luck and please share the result of your query with us.

mpicray:luck:
shanemcmillian Mar 27, 2007, 4:42 PM
Dear mpicray,

Thank you for your suggestion. I did call the state boards and they suggested I feel out a pre approval (Declatory) or something. It was only charged as a misdemenor after alot of Bull****! I talked to a few people and they believe I will be ok. I am still going to send in that form, which costs 200 dollars. I will keep you posted on what they say.
mpicray Mar 29, 2007, 1:52 AM
Shane-

Excellent move - checking with the State Board of Nursing. If it was just classed as a misdemeanor, you're probably okey-dokey. It would just be an awful (and expensive) shame to invest money and hard study just to find out you can't get licensed. I will keep a positive thought for you. Hope it all goes well and you enjoy your studies.

MP