recently i received a letter from the nrsg board saying a complaint was filed against my license for potential substance abuse. after talking to the first board member who tried to blackmale me into joining the cando program, i nicely declined the cando. finally i talk to the woman who is investigating me. you get investigated when you don't voluntarily join cando. but if you join cando, they drop everything. makes perfect sense, right. i think not. so my investigator tells me it was a verbal complaint and all she says is that someone complained that i use pot regularly and passed my prior drug screens by using someone else's urine. i am still flabbergasted @ what i have heard and frankly really pissed off. i have never felt so low in my life, bitter towards the world and angry @ an anonymous person. since the board takes forever with investigating, i have gotten a lawyer who is an rn. the lawyer tells me this happens a lot and to male nurses no less. i hate the term male nurse, but i feel like one now. i feel like some tea totaler woman has it out for me. anyone else out there have this happen to them? if so will i be able to face this accuser in the future in court? b/c i plan to find out no matter how long it takes. you just don't do this to someone as far as i am concerned.
bikern77
We have had a nurse post something similar not too long ago. Someone wrote into the nursing board claiming he/she would come into work stoned or something to that matter. That nurse was asked to do something similar, but I'm not sure how everything turned out. I scrolled through the forums and found that post, so you may want to try and contact that person and see if they have any advice. You can find that post in our "General Nursing Forum" which is at the very top of our Main Index. If you scroll down it is titled "Would Like advice from someone whos been there" and it was originally posted on 11/14/03 by Paddler. Last response to it was on the 10th of this month. Maybe you can PM this person or see if they posted another email address in their profile for you to contact them by. I hoe you can find the answers you are looking for, and everything works out for you. Keep us posted.
bikern77 has your attorney been able to find out who your accuser was at least? I'm glad you have a lawyer so you can get help defending yourself. It's very frightening how little it takes to threaten a nurse's career anymore. Please document everything & let us know what happens next!
I'm not a guy, but this is an issue that matters to all nurses no matter what gender!
Keep us posted. I'm especially interested as my significant other is a male nurse and has recently run into a problen that a female nurse would never encounter...which really sucks...but that's life..we'll deal with it.
Glad you have a lawyer. Again, keep us posted.
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What problem was that?
Having worked in many states as a travel RN and remembering many of the P/P with the boards, accusers(sp?) can remain anonymous if he/she wishes. It sucks, but it's the same for most government agencies. No one would want to bring forth a problem if they knew they would be identified, but on the other hand, it allows for bogus claims.
Best of luck to you.
If you take the test again will that solve the problem? What is CANDO?
Hi there;
It doesn't matter if you are a male or female. Some people can be very vindictive. I know you are very angry and justifiably so, but if you don't pull yourself together you will end up doing yourself more harm than good. I mean this with good intent. I can't see why you cannot face your accuser. We have a right to know who they are. Sounds like the board needs to be put on the hot spot too! They need to be held acountable, as well. We do have federal courts too. Someone is threatening your livelihood. This is not something even the board of nursing should be allowed to handle with such disregard and malicious intent. Your attorney needs to get with it and if he/she has to - be bold and start a precedence! Don't think revenge think much bigger than that! Do it the smart way. Just in case you don't know, Jesus Christ is no match. Not sure how you feel about that last comment, but I know him to be real! Cannon
Okay, I'll ask what has been asked twice before: What is CANDO??? :confused:
Do it by the book. Unfortunately this takes time. First have your lawyer fight the allegation before the board. All manner of due process allow for you to call your accuser. If it is an anonymous accuser, then the veracity of the accuser should be challenged. Once you have cleared yourself in front of the board, then sue for them to release the name, or if it was an anonymous accuser, you can sue the employer of the accuser. It is truly sad to see how far the justice system has moved away from the concept of innocent until proven guilty, and even farther from the founder's concept of facing your accuser. Good luck.
in a situation like that, you are contacted directly by a licensing agency ACHA in some parts of the country and are asked to take a ua if you refuse there is a problem. if you refuse to pee then more than likely there is a problem. most of us don't have a problem with proving people wrong. it happened to me when someone claimed that their valium was stolen by the home care nurse. i was asked to come in an pee, i said i'll be in tomorrow and i was told i will not be able to work if i don't do it "today" i peed and no problem. that's how things are done in a situation like that. the board is not going to allow you to practice when they feel you are not safe for the general population. safety is there number one goal. i certainly hope you get the help you need.
I can see the state board of nursing is attempting to protect the greater good in this situation. They have to assume there is a problem to protect our patients. Still I wouldn't be too happy about it.
I wouldn't have a problem peeing in a cup, long as it was independently tested as well. I would definitely want to have an attorney in my corner.
If I was falsely accused, I can't see submitting to a drug program/probation if there were alternatives. Guess they figure, if someone is using drugs, and wouldn't pass that it gets them into a program to help and under observation in the fastest period of time, without the trauma of a hearing, etc.
With the number of nurses, health professionals, doctors out there abusing, diverting drugs, I can see the need for it.
Andrew Lopez, RN
Nursing Uniforms, Medical Scrubs
http://www.4nursinguniforms.comI've heard of situations like this before happening to nurses male and female. That is why you need to have liability insurance that also protects you if you are called by a BON for investigation.
www.nso.com is what I carry and I believe it covers up to $12000 per incident for legal fees regarding your defense in a BON investigation which should be able to provide you with an attorney that specializes in dealing with a specific BON. Fortunetly I haven't had to use it but I'm glad it's there. I believe I pay like $89/yr for this.
CJ Jones RN Traveler
www.TravelNurseToolbox.comYou too?
The facts remain that we are held to a higher standard here than in any other field (MEN that is). I too have fallen victim to the slander monster and it is prooving almost impossible to work my way up the career ladder because of it.
I do know who is behind this and I also have some very good friends who have backed me in my plight, but it seems that the only way to get rid of the problem is to get a full confession written in blood, and we know how long we can wait for somthing like that to happen.
The only saving grace for me was I happened to find (by chance) the actual person responsible for what I was accused of and they confessed to the crime I was beeing investigated for, but that has not stopped that persons "friends" from making my life mizzzzzzzzerable.
IE: This persons friends were the D.O.N. and several of the nursing supervisors in the facility. You would think they'ld be happy the proper person came forward.
In saving my own reputation as well as my lisence I have been labled as: "Unwilling to cooperate with co-workers." :39: Huh?:whatever:
To top it all off the guilty party still has a job with that facility and I do not.
When asked why the 'Powers that Be' said "He/She still has a job because of the honesty it took to come forward and admit to a wrong doing".
:frustrated: "Now I'm realy confrusticated":frustrated:
Lots of luck in your quest for the truth, don't hold your breath and vengence is not the answer,:hitting-12:even if it seems like the best answer :luck:
